Wednesday, November 09, 2005

[chelseafc.or.id] Digest Number 645

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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Warning...!!
From: AGA EN3RGY <amerta_nugraha@yahoo.com>
2. uneg-uneg
From: guzz adhe <guzzadhe@yahoo.com>
3. 442
From: inov fauzi <inovf@yahoo.com>
4. ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea
From: "hyde_qalong" <hyde_qalong@yahoo.com>
5. Re: 442
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
6. Re: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
7. Re: Warning...!!
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
8. Mental !!!!!
From: "mokhan14" <mokhan14@yahoo.com.sg>
9. [Football Manager] Chelsea FacePack
From: Furin Ongko <furin.ongko@gmail.com>
10. International call-ups and games
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
11. Re: Re: 442
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
12. Re: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
13. Re: uneg-uneg
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
14. Re: uneg-uneg
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
15. Re: Warning...!!
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
16. RE: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea
From: "Lesmana Suhendi" <lesmana.suhendi@frieslandfoods.co.id>

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 01:42:26 -0800 (PST)
From: AGA EN3RGY <amerta_nugraha@yahoo.com>
Subject: Warning...!!

Setelah ditahan.. Everton.. 1-1, kalah lawan betis 1 - 0...terakhir, old trafford.. another defeat, 1 - 0...

sepertinya...lawan2 chelsea...sudah mulai mengenali & bisa mengantisipasi taktik yg dijalankan mourinho...

trio lampard-makelele-essien..terlihat tidak begitu efektif begitu lawan tidak terlalu banyak memainkan bola di tengah..., sementara drogba sebagai ujung tombak juga sering kehilangan bola...dan tidak optimal dalam memanfaatkan peluang...permainan chelsea..terlihat lebih menunggu..begitu kebobolan, baru mengganas...

sudah saatnya mourinho mencoba, kombinasi-kombinasi lain...entah 4-4-2,

atau 4-2-3-1 dengan guddy/c.cole/crespo sedikit dibelakang drogba...

atau kenapa tidak coba dengan 3 center back... [terry,carvalho,gallas]..

toh selama ini... del horno, ferreira, atau gallas juga tidak begitu efektif dalam membantu serangan lewat sayap... crossing2..mereka mereka lebih sering terlihat ngawur..jarang menghasilkan peluang bagus..jujur saja, mereka tidak sebagus... Ashley Cole/G. Neville dalam membantu serangan...

mudah2an..mourinho segera menemukan solusi yang..tepat...

dan di LC kita bisa libas pool n anderlecht...untuk lolos ke next stage...

sukses...buat the blues...

Keep The Blue Flag Flying High...

Regards..

AGA


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 03:57:56 -0800 (PST)
From: guzz adhe <guzzadhe@yahoo.com>
Subject: uneg-uneg

Gw gak mau liat Chelsea kalah lagi.nyakitin ati banget!!!!!! moga2 besok2 menang lagi. Kalo perlu kite pesta gol supaya sakit ati jd ilang BRAVO CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 04:34:13 -0800 (PST)
From: inov fauzi <inovf@yahoo.com>
Subject: 442

wah, coba gue tau ada nonbar...

btw...

gue masih lumayan gondok nih sama hasil mu vs chelsea kemaren... bukan soal kalahnya, tapi karena mourinho kekeuh pake formasi 433 yang udah beberapa kali ketahuan ga mempan ama permainan pressure ketat.. kenapa gak balik ke 442 seperti dulu? gue ga ngerti buat apa punya stok striker sebagus crespo/gudjohnsen/c.cole tapi ga dipake?? gue pikir mourinho terlalu maksa untuk ngasih tempat buat essien...

dan kalo berita soal perang mulut antara mourinho dan wenger itu betul...menurut gue manajer 'psycho' kita yang satu itu harus belajar untuk tutup mulut! awas aja kalo posisi chelsea di liga champions terancam lagi gara2 ulahnya seperti di barcelona dulu!!
soal kepribadian, manajer kita itu memang harus belajar dari ranieri yang menurut gue lebih ber-kelas...





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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:25:53 -0000
From: "hyde_qalong" <hyde_qalong@yahoo.com>
Subject: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

Menurut saya Formasi harus di rubah menjadi 4-4-2
dengan terry,carvalho,del horno,ferreira di belakang
dan robben,duff,lampard,makelele di tengah
dan crespo,drogba di depan
dengan begini serangan akan lebih kuat yah kalo ada yang mau kasih
masukan yah bisa aja and mohon masukannya agar chelsea lebih bisa
bertanding lebih baik.

Mungkin juga hrs beli Totti kali yah biar tengah nya lebih produktif
lagi dalam memberikan umpan2 selain lampard jd kalo lampard mainnya
jelek ada totti apalagi kalo dipasang berdampingan wew dobel playmaker
sadiiiis

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:10:37 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: 442

Wah..sorry Nov lupa ngasih tahu, next time Insya Allah gak lupa..

Udah gak usah terlalu disesalin kekalahan lawan united, semua fans
Chelsea memang kecewa. gw sendiri ngliat skema 433 tp cenderung
451..trus dibabak kedua terakhir bener2 443..dgn turunnya C. Cole.
Sebenernya Essien harus lebih bisa membantu menyerang ketika Lampard
dikunci oleh pemain lawan tp kecenderungan itulah yg kadang bikin
penampilan Duff / Robben mulai tersisih krn Essien utk menjalankan
sistem rotasi yg diterapkan JM, shingga kadang dgn Drogba / Guddy /
Crespo di depan sendirian bisa ter cover dgn Duff / Robben/ J.Cole /
SWP di sayap tapi akhir2 ini, strategi itu memang bener udah terbaca.
Mungkin awalnya waktu ditahan seri Everton trus lanjut kalah dari
Betis dan klimaksnya kalah dari united..Well kita lihat aja ntar
lawan newcastle..apakah pola permainan akan berubah..gw sih setuju
dengan pola 442 tp kadang saking banyaknya bintang bikin repot juga
siapa yg harus masuk dalam starting line up.

Waktu lawan united gw pikir itu come backnya duet JT + Gallas ini gw
setuju ketimbang JT+ Carvalho krn Carva sering out of position kalo
The Blues lagi diserang di kotak pinalti, liat aja waktu lawan
everton dan betis.

Mour, memang lebih cenderung melakukan psy-war dan gw pikir itu cara
dia menanggapi kritikan dari luar dan yg gw tahu itu dia lakukan utk
timnya walau dg cara dia komentar bikin yg denger kebakaran jenggot,
artinya apakah ini merupakan cara dia membela diri, Sejauh ini gw
lihat EPL musim ini gak bakal rame kalo gak ada dia..hehehehe paling
cuma SAF ama Weneger aja yg sering adu mulut..hahahaha..

Kali ini dan seterusnya, semua fans Chelsea harus bisa berjalan dgn
kepala tegak baik menang ataupun kalah..We still on TOP dan.. Mour
berjanji Chelsea akan tetap mejadi juara EPL tahun ini, well just
wait & see...

The Blues soul so teased and tormented
No one knows the pain
You've been through.
The Blues soul so courageous and true
No one knows the real you.

Flying High Up On The Sky
We Keep The Blue Flag Flying High
From Stamford Bridge to Wembley
We Keep The Blue Flag Flying High

C'Mon Chelsea!

agoeng

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:23:42 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

> Mungkin juga hrs beli Totti kali yah biar tengah nya lebih produktif
> lagi dalam memberikan umpan2 selain lampard jd kalo lampard mainnya
> jelek ada totti apalagi kalo dipasang berdampingan wew dobel
>playmaker sadiiiis

Sepertinya Lampard lebih baik dari Totti, dan kalo pun Totti di beli
siapa yg harus di lepas?

Essien jika posisinya seprti di Lyon dulu mungkin bisa lebih
berkembang utk bisa membantu menyerang dan duet dgn Lampard bisa jadi
lebih mobile dng daya jelajah tinggi baik mneyerang dan mbantu
bertahan krn utk urusan pertahanan tengah siapa lagi kalo bukan 'The
Only One Makelele..'

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:37:46 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: Warning...!!


> mudah2an..mourinho segera menemukan solusi yang..tepat...
> dan di LC kita bisa libas pool n anderlecht...untuk lolos ke next
stage... sukses...buat the blues...

> Keep The Blue Flag Flying High...
> Regards..
> AGA

*** Sabar Kang Aga, sepertinya memang banyak yg merindukan
442, ..mudah2an LC bisa lolos yg paling seru ntar di SB..The Blue
bantai2an sama The Fools ( Who? )..
Apakah kekalahan di LC lawan Betis memang strategi JM utk menyikat
L'fool

C'mon Chelsea..

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:57:00 -0000
From: "mokhan14" <mokhan14@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Mental !!!!!

kekalahan Chelsea slama ini adalah karena mental
mental karena selalu menag terus
mental karena merasa paling kuat
mental karena selalu menganggap enteng lawan (terutama bermula dari
everton)
mental karena pemain merasa sudah jemu dengan pola 4-3-3 to 4-5-1
mental..............

kalau sudah mengetahui bahwa mental lah yang menjadi masalah utama dan
sesudah itu seluruh tim mengkoreksi diri agar Chelsea bisa lolos ke
babak knock out di Liga Champion
ini target yg paling dekat utk tidak mengalami kegagalan beruntun

Chelsea in My Heart :(

Salam
Mokhan

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:19:19 +0700
From: Furin Ongko <furin.ongko@gmail.com>
Subject: [Football Manager] Chelsea FacePack

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:42:55 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: International call-ups and games

Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005

The only Chelsea first team players not on international duty this
week are Glen Johnson and Arjen Robben (not fit), Damien Duff and
Eidur Gudjohnsen (no games), and goalkeepers Carlo Cudicini and
Lenny Pidgeley.

The games coming up are as follows.

France v Costa Rica
In Martinique.

Wednesday November 9th.

William Gallas and Claude Makelele will be part of this charity
event which has been the subject of criticism from Arsène Wenger and
Gèrard Houllier because of the travelling involved.

England Under 21s v France Under 21s
At White Hart Lane.

Friday November 11th.

Carlton Cole v Lassana Diarra. European Under 21s Championship Play-
Off First Leg.

Argentina v England
In Geneva.

Saturday November 12th.

Hernán Crespo v John Terry. Wayne Bridge is recalled to the England
squad after recovering from his broken ankle and just one hour's
first team football. Also with England are Shaun Wright-Phillips,
Frank Lampard and Joe Cole.

France v Germany
Saturday November 12th.

Gallas, Makelele and Robert Huth.

Norway v Czech Republic
Saturday November 12th.

World Cup Play-Off First Leg for Petr Cech and recalled on-loan Jirí
Jarošik.

Portugal v Croatia
Saturday November 12th.

Paulo Ferreira and Ricardo Carvalho are selected for this friendly.

Romania v Ivory Coast
In Le Mans.

Saturday November 12th.

Didier Drogba will play in the country of his residence.

Spain v Slovakia
Saturday November 12th.

Asier Del Horno is joined in the Spain squad by Real Betis
midfielder Alberto Rivera, called up for the first time, but not by
Joaquín who has been dropped, for this World Cup Play-Off First Leg.

Cameroon v Morocco
In Paris.

Tuesday November 15th.

Gérémi gets a warm-up game before the African Nations Cup.

France Under 21s v England Under 21s
In Nancy.

Tuesday November 15th.

Diarra v Cole second leg.

Northern Ireland v Portugal
Tuesday November 15th.

A second game for Ferreira and Carvalho.

Czech Republic v Norway
Wednesday November 16th.

Second leg for Cech and Jarošik.

Ivory Coast v Italy
In Geneva.

Wednesday November 16th.

A second game for Drogba.

Qatar v Argentina
Wednesday November 16th.

A second game for Crespo.

Saudi Arabia v Ghana
Wednesday November 16th.

Middle-East action for Michael Essien.

Slovakia v Spain
Wednesday November 16th.

Second leg for Del Horno.

Training with Chelsea on Thursday November 17th!
source: www.chelseafc.or.id

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:19:35 -0800 (PST)
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: 442

Wah gue rasa sih kekalahan beruntun Chelsky, karena ego pemain terlalu besar, contoh :

1. Essien mentang2 sudah mapan jadi starting line up, jadi ingin mencetak gol (mungkin obsesinya kali), padahal pemain lain ada yg lebih save utk cetak gol.
2. Lampard, kasihan saya khawatir di cedera, kalo cedera habislah Chelsky.
3. Pasangan JT dan Gallas (bagus karena Galias didiplin) tapi kelemahan Gallas adalah dia kurang "nakal", tidak seperti Carvalho. Tipikal pemain ini pekerja keras dan sedikit nakal, tapi dari segi intelegensia jelas lebih bagus dari Gallas.
4. Peter Chech kurang teruji, karena pemain belakang Chelsky jempolan, maka tak heran bisa melakukan "blunder"
5. Drogba lebih senang bola2 daerah daripada langsung diarahkan kepada dirinya, karena dia punya speed dan power yang sangat besar, jadi kuncinya Essien lebih banyak menyodorkan umpan daerah kepadanya.
6. JM jangan terlalu meladeni wenger di koran2, hal ini banyak berpengaruh terhadap emosi pemain dilapangan.
7. Yang terakhir, percayalah Tim2 lain mempelajari secara detail setiap jengkal permainan Chelsky, disinilah sebenarnya diuji kematangan taktik dan strategi JM. Jangan sampai dia dinilai berhasil karena pemainnya yang jempolan bukan karena strateginya (artinya pelatih sekelas Iswadi Idris pun yang melatih, Chelsky bisa menang).

Agoeng <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
Wah..sorry Nov lupa ngasih tahu, next time Insya Allah gak lupa..

Udah gak usah terlalu disesalin kekalahan lawan united, semua fans
Chelsea memang kecewa. gw sendiri ngliat skema 433 tp cenderung
451..trus dibabak kedua terakhir bener2 443..dgn turunnya C. Cole.
Sebenernya Essien harus lebih bisa membantu menyerang ketika Lampard
dikunci oleh pemain lawan tp kecenderungan itulah yg kadang bikin
penampilan Duff / Robben mulai tersisih krn Essien utk menjalankan
sistem rotasi yg diterapkan JM, shingga kadang dgn Drogba / Guddy /
Crespo di depan sendirian bisa ter cover dgn Duff / Robben/ J.Cole /
SWP di sayap tapi akhir2 ini, strategi itu memang bener udah terbaca.
Mungkin awalnya waktu ditahan seri Everton trus lanjut kalah dari
Betis dan klimaksnya kalah dari united..Well kita lihat aja ntar
lawan newcastle..apakah pola permainan akan berubah..gw sih setuju
dengan pola 442 tp kadang saking banyaknya bintang bikin repot juga
siapa yg harus masuk dalam starting line up.

Waktu lawan united gw pikir itu come backnya duet JT + Gallas ini gw
setuju ketimbang JT+ Carvalho krn Carva sering out of position kalo
The Blues lagi diserang di kotak pinalti, liat aja waktu lawan
everton dan betis.

Mour, memang lebih cenderung melakukan psy-war dan gw pikir itu cara
dia menanggapi kritikan dari luar dan yg gw tahu itu dia lakukan utk
timnya walau dg cara dia komentar bikin yg denger kebakaran jenggot,
artinya apakah ini merupakan cara dia membela diri, Sejauh ini gw
lihat EPL musim ini gak bakal rame kalo gak ada dia..hehehehe paling
cuma SAF ama Weneger aja yg sering adu mulut..hahahaha..

Kali ini dan seterusnya, semua fans Chelsea harus bisa berjalan dgn
kepala tegak baik menang ataupun kalah..We still on TOP dan.. Mour
berjanji Chelsea akan tetap mejadi juara EPL tahun ini, well just
wait & see...

The Blues soul so teased and tormented
No one knows the pain
You've been through.
The Blues soul so courageous and true
No one knows the real you.

Flying High Up On The Sky
We Keep The Blue Flag Flying High
From Stamford Bridge to Wembley
We Keep The Blue Flag Flying High

C'Mon Chelsea!

agoeng

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:27:06 -0800 (PST)
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

Mengapa Totti? Bullshit liga Italia (liga Italia Liga Diving)
Alasan :
Totti tidak bisa bermain cepat.

Sebaiknya, jual saja Robben (cuma bisa kaki kiri) dan Ferreira (fisik lemah), selanjutnya beli Ronaldo (MU) dan Young (Charlton Athletic)

Sorry saja saat ini tidak ada pemain Italia yang talented

hyde_qalong <hyde_qalong@yahoo.com> wrote:
Menurut saya Formasi harus di rubah menjadi 4-4-2
dengan terry,carvalho,del horno,ferreira di belakang
dan robben,duff,lampard,makelele di tengah
dan crespo,drogba di depan
dengan begini serangan akan lebih kuat yah kalo ada yang mau kasih
masukan yah bisa aja and mohon masukannya agar chelsea lebih bisa
bertanding lebih baik.

Mungkin juga hrs beli Totti kali yah biar tengah nya lebih produktif
lagi dalam memberikan umpan2 selain lampard jd kalo lampard mainnya
jelek ada totti apalagi kalo dipasang berdampingan wew dobel playmaker
sadiiiis

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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:32:03 -0800 (PST)
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: uneg-uneg

Hati2 dengan New Castle United (NCU), mereka punya pemain muda kulit hitam di sisi kanan (siapa namanya saya lupa?) bahaya tuh...dan mereka punya EMRE (ini benar2 pemain bandel) yang seharusnya dibeli oleh JM. Bola2 dari second liner nya gila, kaya geledek (ujian buat Petr Chech), kalo owen saya kira bisa dijaga oleh Terry

guzz adhe <guzzadhe@yahoo.com> wrote:Gw gak mau liat Chelsea kalah lagi.nyakitin ati banget!!!!!! moga2 besok2 menang lagi. Kalo perlu kite pesta gol supaya sakit ati jd ilang BRAVO CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Telp:(021) 8000 444 SMS: 0813 143 43 757
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:32:03 -0800 (PST)
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: uneg-uneg

Hati2 dengan New Castle United (NCU), mereka punya pemain muda kulit hitam di sisi kanan (siapa namanya saya lupa?) bahaya tuh...dan mereka punya EMRE (ini benar2 pemain bandel) yang seharusnya dibeli oleh JM. Bola2 dari second liner nya gila, kaya geledek (ujian buat Petr Chech), kalo owen saya kira bisa dijaga oleh Terry

guzz adhe <guzzadhe@yahoo.com> wrote:Gw gak mau liat Chelsea kalah lagi.nyakitin ati banget!!!!!! moga2 besok2 menang lagi. Kalo perlu kite pesta gol supaya sakit ati jd ilang BRAVO CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:34:16 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Warning...!!

Yupe saya setuju, kecuali Del Horno masih pantas, dia punya naluri menyerang yang tinggi....

AGA EN3RGY <amerta_nugraha@yahoo.com> wrote:
Setelah ditahan.. Everton.. 1-1, kalah lawan betis 1 - 0...terakhir, old trafford.. another defeat, 1 - 0...

sepertinya...lawan2 chelsea...sudah mulai mengenali & bisa mengantisipasi taktik yg dijalankan mourinho...

trio lampard-makelele-essien..terlihat tidak begitu efektif begitu lawan tidak terlalu banyak memainkan bola di tengah..., sementara drogba sebagai ujung tombak juga sering kehilangan bola...dan tidak optimal dalam memanfaatkan peluang...permainan chelsea..terlihat lebih menunggu..begitu kebobolan, baru mengganas...

sudah saatnya mourinho mencoba, kombinasi-kombinasi lain...entah 4-4-2,

atau 4-2-3-1 dengan guddy/c.cole/crespo sedikit dibelakang drogba...

atau kenapa tidak coba dengan 3 center back... [terry,carvalho,gallas]..

toh selama ini... del horno, ferreira, atau gallas juga tidak begitu efektif dalam membantu serangan lewat sayap... crossing2..mereka mereka lebih sering terlihat ngawur..jarang menghasilkan peluang bagus..jujur saja, mereka tidak sebagus... Ashley Cole/G. Neville dalam membantu serangan...

mudah2an..mourinho segera menemukan solusi yang..tepat...

dan di LC kita bisa libas pool n anderlecht...untuk lolos ke next stage...

sukses...buat the blues...

Keep The Blue Flag Flying High...

Regards..

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Subject: RE: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

Ehm.. sebelumnya mohon maaf nih ke bro sekalian mumpung masih suasana lebaran.
Ini adalah kekalahan pertama Chelsea dari 41 pertandingan di liga Premier dan saya mendapati respon dari bro sekalian kok agak negative yah ?
Kalau mau dilihat lagi penyebabnya Chelsea kalah kemaren adalah hanya ada dua menurut saya :
1) D. Flecther bikin gol, yang sebenarnya tidak dapat terjadi (coba aja gol seperti itu gue percaya engga bakalan terjadi lagi dalam 30 hari kedepan)
2) Pemain Chelsea gagal bikin gol. Chelsea babak kedua mengurung MU tapi hasilnya tidak ada
Dan gue yakin Chelsea beda dengan arsenal kekalahan ini tidak akan menghancurkan mental pemainnya.
Kalau memang 4-3-3 atau 4-5-1 itu jelek kok bisa Chelsea saat ini berada di posisi pertama (BTW Arsenal make 4-4-2 loh)
Terus coba deh kita lihat lagi 1-1 lawan Everton : everton sebenarnya adalh team yang sangat bagus dilihat dari materi pemainnya, hanya saja start mereka yang buruk dan mental yang hancur akibat tersingkir dari eropa, jadi sebenarnya draw melawan everton itu bukan hasil yang buruk.
Kalah 0-1 sama MU BTW Chelsea main di Old Traford dan selain itu pemain MU memang memiliki motivasi dan determinasi yang luar biasa malem itu salut untuk mereka, suatu penampilan yang kalau gue yakin sih para pemain MU yang sekarang engga bakalan sanggup ngulangin penampilan seperti itu secara konsisten (hal ini sama seperti penampilan Liverpool waktu lawan Chelsea di Champion), jadi gue yakin bahwa musim ini Chelsea masih bakalan jadi juara.
Kalau mengenai mental pemain Chelsea yang menganggap remeh lawan , kayanya JM adalah orang pertama yang akan mengeluarkan pemain yang tidak memiliki motivasi bermain full,
Mengenai roben musim kemarin dia dan Damien duff sering bertukar posisi loh kadang di kiri kadang dikanan hanya saat ini dia memang belum menunjukkan performa terbaiknya semenjak cedera, jadi sebenarnya engga tepat kalau dibilang dia Cuma bisa main di kiri
Kalau Cristiano R . dia memang pemain bagus tapi kalau dia memang lebih bagus dari winger yang Chelsea punya saat ini gue engga terlalu yakin deh, bukannya dia juga dikenal tukang diving ? dan juga sering bermain individu mengandalkan gocekkannya (persis seperti JC musim kemarin).

Aduh jadi panjang nih nulisnya,
Jangan jadi gelap mata karena kekalahan ini dan langsung berpikiran JM adalah Idiot dan Chelsa Cuma sekumpulan pemain Over Rated.
Kalau memang JM idiot dan pelatih lain lebih baik apakah ada yang bisa menyebutkan pelatih yang memiliki prestsi lebih baik dari dia ?
Champion,Uefa,Liga Portugal,Premier, Carling Cup,Community Shield,World Series Champion 2005, dan semuanya dilakukan kurang dari 5 tahun
Apa ada yang lebih baik dari dia tentunya yang sekarang masih aktif?

Lesmana

Believe in JM the special one

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Subject: Re: [chelseafc.or.id] ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

Mengapa Totti? Bullshit liga Italia (liga Italia Liga Diving)
Alasan :
Totti tidak bisa bermain cepat. "(setau gue totti kalau dapat bola engga pernah lama dikakinya itu bola begitu nempel biasanya sih langsung dioper)

Sebaiknya, jual saja Robben (cuma bisa kaki kiri) dan Ferreira (fisik lemah), selanjutnya beli Ronaldo (MU) dan Young (Charlton Athletic)

Sorry saja saat ini tidak ada pemain Italia yang talented

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hi

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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:19:46 -0500
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For those budding refs amongst you I have posted an interesting refereeing
decission question to the Chelsea in America BB. Take a look and let me
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http://www.chelseainamerica.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=506

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From: Julian Childs <bluejulesboston@yahoo.com>
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From: Julian Childs <bluejulesboston@yahoo.com>
3. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "jt rules" <cfcfan@charter.net>

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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:28:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Julian Childs <bluejulesboston@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Oh yeah sorry Beth forgot to mention. JT is obviously number 1, Billy is number 2 in that partnership,... is that better ;)

jt rules <cfcfan@charter.net> wrote:Julian you know I "love ya" but honestly do you really think I could sit
back and imagine that JT isn't perfect in every way!!!!! Don't get me wrong
Billy is wonderful and I much prefer Billy next to JT over anyone else, but
JT is EVERYTHING!!!!! He has pace, he stays on his feet, and very adaptable
(Wobbly don't go there!!!), and as far as decisions, well those days of bad
decisions are far behind him.

Sorry just had to say it!!!! ; )

Beth

JOHN TERRY RULES!!!!!!

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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:28 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

My theory on Gallas is this .... pure speculation of course ;)

Billy is everything JT is not ..which is why they make the perfect pairing
at centre back - JT wins everything, reads the game brilliantly, is a
natural leader and is hard as nails to boot. Gallas has pace, stays on his
feet, can adapt to any situation and makes great decisions. Therein you have
the best centre back pairing in the EPL ... (check the stats when Gallas
and JT are a partnership .. it's scary good)

... problem is Jose straight away puts his neck out and spends a brazillion
quid on Carvahlo .. who is being touted in Europe as the best in the world.
His boy you could say.. but seizing his moment at the top Ricky isn't about
to be a benchwarmer and actually sees himself more in the JT leadership role
(sorry mate never gonna happen at Chels.) Of course Jose also wants to show
his transfer judgement is good and so tries to accomodate RC

Because neither JT or RC can play full back and JT is capo then it has to be
Gallas who either slips out wide or sits out.

However Gallas is French (and a bloody good player) therefore not best
pleased at sitting down either BUT more importantly a major transfer target
for a certain Frenchman on the North side of town. Jose is desperate not to
loose Gallas to a major rival therefore would rather play him somewhere than
not at all and hopefully keep him happy.

Paulo is a good guy, portuguese and like a son to Jose so will do what his
told, Del boy is young and has time on his side so also is not going to
question sitting for a game or two.

Add to that Gallas is his own worst enemy becuase he is so flexible and can
play any position at the back unlike any of the others. Therefore always
good to have on the pitch if Jose wants to change things around.

IMO our back four should always be Paulo, JT, Gallas and Del Boy unless
injuries or loss of form mean their replaced by their backup (johnson, huth,
RC and Bridgey)

I have a horrible feeling we'll end up losing Gallas in the summer but of
course in Jose we trust...

Blue Jules

ps. shame the manc's lost tonight !! LOL

Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net> wrote:
Hi Mick,

As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
yellow and the tempo of the game.

I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as PF
has been on the bench

and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is preferred
on the right! I just don't get the

Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of! Also
maybe he was wanting some

Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!

We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!

ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)

Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
premier league and suffer in

Europe! Talk about bandwagon...

Cheers,

Hoss

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From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mick Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
To: US BLUES
Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings in
people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being beat
on the ground.

Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass to
one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.

BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and trust
me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked that
Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!

Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some of
the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles up/down
and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.

Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!

Mick

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> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
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> Again today
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> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
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> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
> thing RC does is annoying.
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:34:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Julian Childs <bluejulesboston@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

very true - but you'd still have to sub one defender and arguably Paulo or Del Horno could easily slot into a back three also.

just think there's more to it than pure tactics.

Be interesting to see who plays on Sunday presuming it would be Jose strongest back 4 ???

Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com> wrote:
That's one theory. The other is that with billy, john and ricky
on the field the team can revert to a back three without any
substitutions.

Les.

> My theory on Gallas is this .... pure speculation of course ;)
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:09:51 -0600
From: "jt rules" <cfcfan@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Thanks my dear, just so you don't forget

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From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Julian Childs
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:28 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Oh yeah sorry Beth forgot to mention. JT is obviously number 1, Billy is
number 2 in that partnership,... is that better ;)

jt rules <cfcfan@charter.net> wrote:Julian you know I "love ya" but honestly
do you really think I could sit back and imagine that JT isn't perfect in
every way!!!!! Don't get me wrong Billy is wonderful and I much prefer Billy
next to JT over anyone else, but JT is EVERYTHING!!!!! He has pace, he stays
on his feet, and very adaptable (Wobbly don't go there!!!), and as far as
decisions, well those days of bad decisions are far behind him.

Sorry just had to say it!!!! ; )

Beth

JOHN TERRY RULES!!!!!!

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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:28 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

My theory on Gallas is this .... pure speculation of course ;)

Billy is everything JT is not ..which is why they make the perfect pairing
at centre back - JT wins everything, reads the game brilliantly, is a
natural leader and is hard as nails to boot. Gallas has pace, stays on his
feet, can adapt to any situation and makes great decisions. Therein you have
the best centre back pairing in the EPL ... (check the stats when Gallas
and JT are a partnership .. it's scary good)

... problem is Jose straight away puts his neck out and spends a brazillion
quid on Carvahlo .. who is being touted in Europe as the best in the world.
His boy you could say.. but seizing his moment at the top Ricky isn't about
to be a benchwarmer and actually sees himself more in the JT leadership role
(sorry mate never gonna happen at Chels.) Of course Jose also wants to show
his transfer judgement is good and so tries to accomodate RC

Because neither JT or RC can play full back and JT is capo then it has to be
Gallas who either slips out wide or sits out.

However Gallas is French (and a bloody good player) therefore not best
pleased at sitting down either BUT more importantly a major transfer target
for a certain Frenchman on the North side of town. Jose is desperate not to
loose Gallas to a major rival therefore would rather play him somewhere than
not at all and hopefully keep him happy.

Paulo is a good guy, portuguese and like a son to Jose so will do what his
told, Del boy is young and has time on his side so also is not going to
question sitting for a game or two.

Add to that Gallas is his own worst enemy becuase he is so flexible and can
play any position at the back unlike any of the others. Therefore always
good to have on the pitch if Jose wants to change things around.

IMO our back four should always be Paulo, JT, Gallas and Del Boy unless
injuries or loss of form mean their replaced by their backup (johnson, huth,
RC and Bridgey)

I have a horrible feeling we'll end up losing Gallas in the summer but of
course in Jose we trust...

Blue Jules

ps. shame the manc's lost tonight !! LOL

Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net> wrote:
Hi Mick,

As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
yellow and the tempo of the game.

I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as PF
has been on the bench

and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is preferred
on the right! I just don't get the

Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of! Also
maybe he was wanting some

Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!

We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!

ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)

Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
premier league and suffer in

Europe! Talk about bandwagon...

Cheers,

Hoss

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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
To: US BLUES
Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings in
people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being beat
on the ground.

Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass to
one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.

BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and trust
me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked that
Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!

Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some of
the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles up/down
and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.

Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!

Mick

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> Again today
>
> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>
> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
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Topics in this digest:

1. re: Group G qualifiers ...
From: Bigbluegan@aol.com
2. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
3. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
4. Re: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
5. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
6. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
7. RE: re: Group G qualifiers ...
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
8. Re: re: Group G qualifiers ...
From: Bigbluegan@aol.com
9. RE: re: Group G qualifiers ...
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
10. Re: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
11. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
12. Re: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
13. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
14. Uh oh....
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:19:04 EST
From: Bigbluegan@aol.com
Subject: re: Group G qualifiers ...

A bit of a longshot, but still possible .... CFC and Betis are the
quailfiers from Group G ....

CFC wins at Anderlecht and at the Bridge versus the Scousers ..... Betis
wins at 'Pool ( another shocker) and at home versus Anderlecht .....

Steven might still be correct that we knock 'em out on 12/6 ....

Be well GAN

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:22:13 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Quite agree!

I also don't get using Gallas all over the back line ALL the time while
everyone seems to be fit

for their positions (last couple of weeks)!

Betis and the ref managed to get under our skin. We were
uncharacteristically complaining too

much and rushing it a bit too much as well, rather than shaking off all of
it as we normally do and get

on with it.

I remember looking at the match clock on 66 minutes and thinking there was
plenty of time and yet

we looked to be rushing it and long balling it as though there were 3
minutes to go. (rather than control

the tempo of the match as we normally do).

Rant over.

Cheers,

Hoss

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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:22 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Again today

Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...

And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:56:48 -0500
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Granted, it was an away fixture, but I'm a little surprised Mourinho didn't
take off PF and put on Drogs ( a la Bolton) to allow Guddy to play deeper
and to force them onto their back foot. Save that, revert to a 4-4-2 by
putting Drogs on For Essien.

It will be interesting to see how Jose deals without Drogs, Essien, and to a
lewsser degree Geremi when the African Nations Cup kicks off.

T H

From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Reply-To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:22:13 -0500

Quite agree!

I also don't get using Gallas all over the back line ALL the time while
everyone seems to be fit

for their positions (last couple of weeks)!

Betis and the ref managed to get under our skin. We were
uncharacteristically complaining too

much and rushing it a bit too much as well, rather than shaking off all of
it as we normally do and get

on with it.

I remember looking at the match clock on 66 minutes and thinking there was
plenty of time and yet

we looked to be rushing it and long balling it as though there were 3
minutes to go. (rather than control

the tempo of the match as we normally do).

Rant over.

Cheers,

Hoss

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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:22 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Again today

Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...

And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:04:33 -0500
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
Subject: Re: where did the 4 goals go part II

I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings in
people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being beat
on the ground.

Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass to
one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.

BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and trust
me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked that
Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!

Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some of
the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles up/down
and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.

Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!

Mick

> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Again today
>
> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>
> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
> thing RC does is annoying.
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:06:32 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Good point Tom, specially with two of their better (attacking?) players
injured and subbed out

in the first 20 minutes or so would of made a lot of sense! Hmmmm.

Not to be second guessing Jose, mind! ;-)

Now get your arse back to England, will ya?

Cheers,

Hoss

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T H
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:57 AM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Granted, it was an away fixture, but I'm a little surprised Mourinho didn't
take off PF and put on Drogs ( a la Bolton) to allow Guddy to play deeper
and to force them onto their back foot. Save that, revert to a 4-4-2 by
putting Drogs on For Essien.

It will be interesting to see how Jose deals without Drogs, Essien, and to a

lewsser degree Geremi when the African Nations Cup kicks off.

T H

From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Reply-To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:22:13 -0500

Quite agree!

I also don't get using Gallas all over the back line ALL the time while
everyone seems to be fit

for their positions (last couple of weeks)!

Betis and the ref managed to get under our skin. We were
uncharacteristically complaining too

much and rushing it a bit too much as well, rather than shaking off all of
it as we normally do and get

on with it.

I remember looking at the match clock on 66 minutes and thinking there was
plenty of time and yet

we looked to be rushing it and long balling it as though there were 3
minutes to go. (rather than control

the tempo of the match as we normally do).

Rant over.

Cheers,

Hoss

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jjcbeme
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:22 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Again today

Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...

And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Hi Mick,

As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
yellow and the tempo of the game.

I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as PF
has been on the bench

and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is preferred
on the right! I just don't get the

Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of! Also
maybe he was wanting some

Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!

We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!

ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)

Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
premier league and suffer in

Europe! Talk about bandwagon...

Cheers,

Hoss

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From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mick Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
To: US BLUES
Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings in
people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being beat
on the ground.

Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass to
one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.

BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and trust
me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked that
Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!

Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some of
the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles up/down
and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.

Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!

Mick

> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Again today
>
> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>
> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
> thing RC does is annoying.
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:33:16 -0500
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: re: Group G qualifiers ...

A very long shot as the Scousers will want to remove all doubt before they
go to London. Eleven points will get a team through, but a team could also
miss out with 11 points.

In the next set of matches Betis needs to win to stay alive while the
Scousers only need a draw to advance. If we win and the Scousers win we're
through easily as we can't be caught. If the Scousers draw and we win, we
advance because of tie-breaker number 2 below. If we draw or lose to
Anderlecht, we'll have to win the home leg against the Scousers regardless
of what happens at Anfield.

One has to assume Betis will beat Anderlecht. If the Scousers lose to Betis
and we win at Anderlecht, it get's really complicated. If we tie the
Scousers with a score, we'll be out through tie-breaker 3. If we tie 0-0,
then goal difference will come into play through tie-breaker 4 (we are
presently one goal behind in GD). Fortunate for us, it appears if we win
our next match and the Scousers lose their next match, there is no way the
tie-breakers go past number 4 and we'll go through.

1) Points earned in head-to-head matches between the tied teams.
2) Total goals scored in head-to-head matches between the tied teams.
3) Away goals scored in head-to-head matches between the tied teams.
4) Cumulative goal difference in all group matches.
5) Total goals scored in all group matches.
6) Higher UEFA coefficient going into the competition.

T H

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To: usblues@yahoogroups.com, jay.mcalpine@wachoviasec.com,
cmac13@hotmail.com
Subject: [usblues] re: Group G qualifiers ...
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:19:04 EST

A bit of a longshot, but still possible .... CFC and Betis are the
quailfiers from Group G ....

CFC wins at Anderlecht and at the Bridge versus the Scousers ..... Betis
wins at 'Pool ( another shocker) and at home versus Anderlecht .....

Steven might still be correct that we knock 'em out on 12/6 ....

Be well GAN

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:36:39 EST
From: Bigbluegan@aol.com
Subject: Re: re: Group G qualifiers ...

thank you for the thorough explanantion ... maybe, just maybe???

GAN

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:42:48 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: re: Group G qualifiers ...

Greg,

I would love nothing less mate, as unlikely as it seems! I hope you're
right!

Tom...you just gave me a head-ache mate! Bloody 'ell. ;-)

Cheers,

Hoss

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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:37 AM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [usblues] re: Group G qualifiers ...

thank you for the thorough explanantion ... maybe, just maybe???

GAN

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:55:50 -0500
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
Subject: Re: where did the 4 goals go part II

Hoss

I know what you mean about Joeys yellow but sometimes you have to say Bow
Locks to that if you consider that the player is being effective.

Never mind PF what about Del Boy he wasn't even on the bench....I think he
tried too hard in the first game but he is Spanish and he is used to the
blatant 'Latin' tricks that Betis pulled (condoned by a cr@p ref) last
night.

Nahhhhhh we are not turning into Arse....we can still win the Treble and
they are out of it!!!!!!

I hope Manure get taken apart again tonight and if they do we can finish off
the Garden Gnomes reign on Sunday

Mick

> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Hi Mick,
>
>
>
> As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
> yellow and the tempo of the game.
>
>
>
> I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as PF
> has been on the bench
>
> and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is preferred
> on the right! I just don't get the
>
> Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of! Also
> maybe he was wanting some
>
> Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!
>
>
>
> We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!
>
> ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)
>
>
>
> Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
> premier league and suffer in
>
> Europe! Talk about bandwagon...
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hoss
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Mick Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
> To: US BLUES
> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
>
>
> I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
> fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
> bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
> enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
> changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings in
> people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being beat
> on the ground.
>
> Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
> guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass to
> one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
> always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.
>
> BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
> and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and trust
> me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
> scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
> Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked that
> Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!
>
> Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some of
> the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles up/down
> and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
> players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.
>
> Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!
>
> Mick
>
>
>> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>> Again today
>>
>> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
>> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>>
>> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
>> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
>> thing RC does is annoying.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:04:37 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Mick,

Jose said something on the website about an injury (small knock of some
kind) to Del Horno, hence

not on the bench! But I certainly agree with the general premise of this
over the last couple of weeks!

I understand your point on Joey, but a second yellow would have been harsh
on the team in the

second half! (not in hindsight, mind). Imagine playing that team and that
ref in that ground with ten.

I bet he had no confidence in the ref!

Regardless, we'll make up for this at OT!

Cheers,

Hoss

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From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mick Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:56 AM
To: US BLUES
Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Hoss

I know what you mean about Joeys yellow but sometimes you have to say Bow
Locks to that if you consider that the player is being effective.

Never mind PF what about Del Boy he wasn't even on the bench....I think he
tried too hard in the first game but he is Spanish and he is used to the
blatant 'Latin' tricks that Betis pulled (condoned by a cr@p ref) last
night.

Nahhhhhh we are not turning into Arse....we can still win the Treble and
they are out of it!!!!!!

I hope Manure get taken apart again tonight and if they do we can finish off
the Garden Gnomes reign on Sunday

Mick

> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Hi Mick,
>
>
>
> As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
> yellow and the tempo of the game.
>
>
>
> I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as
PF
> has been on the bench
>
> and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is
preferred
> on the right! I just don't get the
>
> Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of!
Also
> maybe he was wanting some
>
> Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!
>
>
>
> We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!
>
> ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)
>
>
>
> Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
> premier league and suffer in
>
> Europe! Talk about bandwagon...
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hoss
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> Mick Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
> To: US BLUES
> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
>
>
> I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
> fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
> bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
> enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
> changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings
in
> people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being
beat
> on the ground.
>
> Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
> guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass
to
> one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
> always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.
>
> BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
> and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and
trust
> me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
> scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
> Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked
that
> Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!
>
> Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some
of
> the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles
up/down
> and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
> players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.
>
> Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!
>
> Mick
>
>
>> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>> Again today
>>
>> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
>> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>>
>> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
>> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
>> thing RC does is annoying.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Be sure to visit our website at http://www.us-blues.com
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>>
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>>
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>>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 10:14:51 -0500
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
Subject: Re: where did the 4 goals go part II

Hoss

We ended up with 6 yellows and one of them was a second for SWP which means
he misses the next game so not sure you point is valid.....and we were
playing the 12 of them with 10 for a large part of the game :-)

C'mon you Blues...the blip is over!!!!!

Mick

> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:04:37 -0500
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Mick,
>
>
>
> Jose said something on the website about an injury (small knock of some
> kind) to Del Horno, hence
>
> not on the bench! But I certainly agree with the general premise of this
> over the last couple of weeks!
>
>
>
> I understand your point on Joey, but a second yellow would have been harsh
> on the team in the
>
> second half! (not in hindsight, mind). Imagine playing that team and that
> ref in that ground with ten.
>
> I bet he had no confidence in the ref!
>
>
>
> Regardless, we'll make up for this at OT!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hoss
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Mick Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:56 AM
> To: US BLUES
> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
>
>
> Hoss
>
> I know what you mean about Joeys yellow but sometimes you have to say Bow
> Locks to that if you consider that the player is being effective.
>
> Never mind PF what about Del Boy he wasn't even on the bench....I think he
> tried too hard in the first game but he is Spanish and he is used to the
> blatant 'Latin' tricks that Betis pulled (condoned by a cr@p ref) last
> night.
>
> Nahhhhhh we are not turning into Arse....we can still win the Treble and
> they are out of it!!!!!!
>
> I hope Manure get taken apart again tonight and if they do we can finish off
> the Garden Gnomes reign on Sunday
>
> Mick
>
>
>> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
>> yellow and the tempo of the game.
>>
>>
>>
>> I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as
> PF
>> has been on the bench
>>
>> and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is
> preferred
>> on the right! I just don't get the
>>
>> Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of!
> Also
>> maybe he was wanting some
>>
>> Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!
>>
>> ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
>> premier league and suffer in
>>
>> Europe! Talk about bandwagon...
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hoss
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
>> Mick Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
>> To: US BLUES
>> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>>
>>
>> I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
>> fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
>> bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
>> enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
>> changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings
> in
>> people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being
> beat
>> on the ground.
>>
>> Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
>> guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass
> to
>> one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
>> always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.
>>
>> BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
>> and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and
> trust
>> me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
>> scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
>> Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked
> that
>> Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!
>>
>> Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some
> of
>> the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles
> up/down
>> and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
>> players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.
>>
>> Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
>>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>>
>>> Again today
>>>
>>> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
>>> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>>>
>>> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
>>> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
>>> thing RC does is annoying.
>>>
>>>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:26:28 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Fair enough Mick!
Have a great day mate.

Cheers,

Hoss

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From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mick Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:15 AM
To: US BLUES
Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Hoss

We ended up with 6 yellows and one of them was a second for SWP which means
he misses the next game so not sure you point is valid.....and we were
playing the 12 of them with 10 for a large part of the game :-)

C'mon you Blues...the blip is over!!!!!

Mick

> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:04:37 -0500
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Mick,
>
>
>
> Jose said something on the website about an injury (small knock of some
> kind) to Del Horno, hence
>
> not on the bench! But I certainly agree with the general premise of this
> over the last couple of weeks!
>
>
>
> I understand your point on Joey, but a second yellow would have been harsh
> on the team in the
>
> second half! (not in hindsight, mind). Imagine playing that team and that
> ref in that ground with ten.
>
> I bet he had no confidence in the ref!
>
>
>
> Regardless, we'll make up for this at OT!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hoss
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> Mick Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:56 AM
> To: US BLUES
> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
>
>
> Hoss
>
> I know what you mean about Joeys yellow but sometimes you have to say Bow
> Locks to that if you consider that the player is being effective.
>
> Never mind PF what about Del Boy he wasn't even on the bench....I think he
> tried too hard in the first game but he is Spanish and he is used to the
> blatant 'Latin' tricks that Betis pulled (condoned by a cr@p ref) last
> night.
>
> Nahhhhhh we are not turning into Arse....we can still win the Treble and
> they are out of it!!!!!!
>
> I hope Manure get taken apart again tonight and if they do we can finish
off
> the Garden Gnomes reign on Sunday
>
> Mick
>
>
>> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
>> yellow and the tempo of the game.
>>
>>
>>
>> I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as
> PF
>> has been on the bench
>>
>> and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is
> preferred
>> on the right! I just don't get the
>>
>> Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of!
> Also
>> maybe he was wanting some
>>
>> Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!
>>
>> ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in
the
>> premier league and suffer in
>>
>> Europe! Talk about bandwagon...
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hoss
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
>> Mick Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
>> To: US BLUES
>> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>>
>>
>> I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
>> fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
>> bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it
is
>> enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
>> changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings
> in
>> people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being
> beat
>> on the ground.
>>
>> Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
>> guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass
> to
>> one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
>> always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.
>>
>> BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the
bandwagon
>> and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and
> trust
>> me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
>> scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
>> Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked
> that
>> Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!
>>
>> Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some
> of
>> the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles
> up/down
>> and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
>> players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.
>>
>> Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
>>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>>
>>> Again today
>>>
>>> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
>>> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>>>
>>> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
>>> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
>>> thing RC does is annoying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Be sure to visit our website at http://www.us-blues.com
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:25:45 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: Uh oh....

Lille up one on 39 minutes.......:-)

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