Chelsea

[chelseafc.or.id] Digest Number 645

2005-11-09T01:12:00.000-08:00

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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Warning...!!
From: AGA EN3RGY <amerta_nugraha@yahoo.com>
2. uneg-uneg
From: guzz adhe <guzzadhe@yahoo.com>
3. 442
From: inov fauzi <inovf@yahoo.com>
4. ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea
From: "hyde_qalong" <hyde_qalong@yahoo.com>
5. Re: 442
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
6. Re: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
7. Re: Warning...!!
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
8. Mental !!!!!
From: "mokhan14" <mokhan14@yahoo.com.sg>
9. [Football Manager] Chelsea FacePack
From: Furin Ongko <furin.ongko@gmail.com>
10. International call-ups and games
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
11. Re: Re: 442
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
12. Re: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
13. Re: uneg-uneg
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
14. Re: uneg-uneg
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
15. Re: Warning...!!
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
16. RE: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea
From: "Lesmana Suhendi" <lesmana.suhendi@frieslandfoods.co.id>

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 01:42:26 -0800 (PST)
From: AGA EN3RGY <amerta_nugraha@yahoo.com>
Subject: Warning...!!

Setelah ditahan.. Everton.. 1-1, kalah lawan betis 1 - 0...terakhir, old trafford.. another defeat, 1 - 0...

sepertinya...lawan2 chelsea...sudah mulai mengenali & bisa mengantisipasi taktik yg dijalankan mourinho...

trio lampard-makelele-essien..terlihat tidak begitu efektif begitu lawan tidak terlalu banyak memainkan bola di tengah..., sementara drogba sebagai ujung tombak juga sering kehilangan bola...dan tidak optimal dalam memanfaatkan peluang...permainan chelsea..terlihat lebih menunggu..begitu kebobolan, baru mengganas...

sudah saatnya mourinho mencoba, kombinasi-kombinasi lain...entah 4-4-2,

atau 4-2-3-1 dengan guddy/c.cole/crespo sedikit dibelakang drogba...

atau kenapa tidak coba dengan 3 center back... [terry,carvalho,gallas]..

toh selama ini... del horno, ferreira, atau gallas juga tidak begitu efektif dalam membantu serangan lewat sayap... crossing2..mereka mereka lebih sering terlihat ngawur..jarang menghasilkan peluang bagus..jujur saja, mereka tidak sebagus... Ashley Cole/G. Neville dalam membantu serangan...

mudah2an..mourinho segera menemukan solusi yang..tepat...

dan di LC kita bisa libas pool n anderlecht...untuk lolos ke next stage...

sukses...buat the blues...

Keep The Blue Flag Flying High...

Regards..

AGA

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 03:57:56 -0800 (PST)
From: guzz adhe <guzzadhe@yahoo.com>
Subject: uneg-uneg

Gw gak mau liat Chelsea kalah lagi.nyakitin ati banget!!!!!! moga2 besok2 menang lagi. Kalo perlu kite pesta gol supaya sakit ati jd ilang BRAVO CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 04:34:13 -0800 (PST)
From: inov fauzi <inovf@yahoo.com>
Subject: 442

wah, coba gue tau ada nonbar...

btw...

gue masih lumayan gondok nih sama hasil mu vs chelsea kemaren... bukan soal kalahnya, tapi karena mourinho kekeuh pake formasi 433 yang udah beberapa kali ketahuan ga mempan ama permainan pressure ketat.. kenapa gak balik ke 442 seperti dulu? gue ga ngerti buat apa punya stok striker sebagus crespo/gudjohnsen/c.cole tapi ga dipake?? gue pikir mourinho terlalu maksa untuk ngasih tempat buat essien...

dan kalo berita soal perang mulut antara mourinho dan wenger itu betul...menurut gue manajer 'psycho' kita yang satu itu harus belajar untuk tutup mulut! awas aja kalo posisi chelsea di liga champions terancam lagi gara2 ulahnya seperti di barcelona dulu!!
soal kepribadian, manajer kita itu memang harus belajar dari ranieri yang menurut gue lebih ber-kelas...

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:25:53 -0000
From: "hyde_qalong" <hyde_qalong@yahoo.com>
Subject: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

Menurut saya Formasi harus di rubah menjadi 4-4-2
dengan terry,carvalho,del horno,ferreira di belakang
dan robben,duff,lampard,makelele di tengah
dan crespo,drogba di depan
dengan begini serangan akan lebih kuat yah kalo ada yang mau kasih
masukan yah bisa aja and mohon masukannya agar chelsea lebih bisa
bertanding lebih baik.

Mungkin juga hrs beli Totti kali yah biar tengah nya lebih produktif
lagi dalam memberikan umpan2 selain lampard jd kalo lampard mainnya
jelek ada totti apalagi kalo dipasang berdampingan wew dobel playmaker
sadiiiis

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:10:37 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: 442

Wah..sorry Nov lupa ngasih tahu, next time Insya Allah gak lupa..

Udah gak usah terlalu disesalin kekalahan lawan united, semua fans
Chelsea memang kecewa. gw sendiri ngliat skema 433 tp cenderung
451..trus dibabak kedua terakhir bener2 443..dgn turunnya C. Cole.
Sebenernya Essien harus lebih bisa membantu menyerang ketika Lampard
dikunci oleh pemain lawan tp kecenderungan itulah yg kadang bikin
penampilan Duff / Robben mulai tersisih krn Essien utk menjalankan
sistem rotasi yg diterapkan JM, shingga kadang dgn Drogba / Guddy /
Crespo di depan sendirian bisa ter cover dgn Duff / Robben/ J.Cole /
SWP di sayap tapi akhir2 ini, strategi itu memang bener udah terbaca.
Mungkin awalnya waktu ditahan seri Everton trus lanjut kalah dari
Betis dan klimaksnya kalah dari united..Well kita lihat aja ntar
lawan newcastle..apakah pola permainan akan berubah..gw sih setuju
dengan pola 442 tp kadang saking banyaknya bintang bikin repot juga
siapa yg harus masuk dalam starting line up.

Waktu lawan united gw pikir itu come backnya duet JT + Gallas ini gw
setuju ketimbang JT+ Carvalho krn Carva sering out of position kalo
The Blues lagi diserang di kotak pinalti, liat aja waktu lawan
everton dan betis.

Mour, memang lebih cenderung melakukan psy-war dan gw pikir itu cara
dia menanggapi kritikan dari luar dan yg gw tahu itu dia lakukan utk
timnya walau dg cara dia komentar bikin yg denger kebakaran jenggot,
artinya apakah ini merupakan cara dia membela diri, Sejauh ini gw
lihat EPL musim ini gak bakal rame kalo gak ada dia..hehehehe paling
cuma SAF ama Weneger aja yg sering adu mulut..hahahaha..

Kali ini dan seterusnya, semua fans Chelsea harus bisa berjalan dgn
kepala tegak baik menang ataupun kalah..We still on TOP dan.. Mour
berjanji Chelsea akan tetap mejadi juara EPL tahun ini, well just
wait & see...

The Blues soul so teased and tormented
No one knows the pain
You've been through.
The Blues soul so courageous and true
No one knows the real you.

Flying High Up On The Sky
We Keep The Blue Flag Flying High
From Stamford Bridge to Wembley
We Keep The Blue Flag Flying High

C'Mon Chelsea!

agoeng

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:23:42 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

> Mungkin juga hrs beli Totti kali yah biar tengah nya lebih produktif
> lagi dalam memberikan umpan2 selain lampard jd kalo lampard mainnya
> jelek ada totti apalagi kalo dipasang berdampingan wew dobel
>playmaker sadiiiis

Sepertinya Lampard lebih baik dari Totti, dan kalo pun Totti di beli
siapa yg harus di lepas?

Essien jika posisinya seprti di Lyon dulu mungkin bisa lebih
berkembang utk bisa membantu menyerang dan duet dgn Lampard bisa jadi
lebih mobile dng daya jelajah tinggi baik mneyerang dan mbantu
bertahan krn utk urusan pertahanan tengah siapa lagi kalo bukan 'The
Only One Makelele..'

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:37:46 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: Warning...!!

> mudah2an..mourinho segera menemukan solusi yang..tepat...
> dan di LC kita bisa libas pool n anderlecht...untuk lolos ke next
stage... sukses...buat the blues...

> Keep The Blue Flag Flying High...
> Regards..
> AGA

*** Sabar Kang Aga, sepertinya memang banyak yg merindukan
442, ..mudah2an LC bisa lolos yg paling seru ntar di SB..The Blue
bantai2an sama The Fools ( Who? )..
Apakah kekalahan di LC lawan Betis memang strategi JM utk menyikat
L'fool

C'mon Chelsea..

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:57:00 -0000
From: "mokhan14" <mokhan14@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Mental !!!!!

kekalahan Chelsea slama ini adalah karena mental
mental karena selalu menag terus
mental karena merasa paling kuat
mental karena selalu menganggap enteng lawan (terutama bermula dari
everton)
mental karena pemain merasa sudah jemu dengan pola 4-3-3 to 4-5-1
mental..............

kalau sudah mengetahui bahwa mental lah yang menjadi masalah utama dan
sesudah itu seluruh tim mengkoreksi diri agar Chelsea bisa lolos ke
babak knock out di Liga Champion
ini target yg paling dekat utk tidak mengalami kegagalan beruntun

Chelsea in My Heart :(

Salam
Mokhan

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:19:19 +0700
From: Furin Ongko <furin.ongko@gmail.com>
Subject: [Football Manager] Chelsea FacePack

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:42:55 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: International call-ups and games

Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005

The only Chelsea first team players not on international duty this
week are Glen Johnson and Arjen Robben (not fit), Damien Duff and
Eidur Gudjohnsen (no games), and goalkeepers Carlo Cudicini and
Lenny Pidgeley.

The games coming up are as follows.

France v Costa Rica
In Martinique.

Wednesday November 9th.

William Gallas and Claude Makelele will be part of this charity
event which has been the subject of criticism from Arsène Wenger and
Gèrard Houllier because of the travelling involved.

England Under 21s v France Under 21s
At White Hart Lane.

Friday November 11th.

Carlton Cole v Lassana Diarra. European Under 21s Championship Play-
Off First Leg.

Argentina v England
In Geneva.

Saturday November 12th.

Hernán Crespo v John Terry. Wayne Bridge is recalled to the England
squad after recovering from his broken ankle and just one hour's
first team football. Also with England are Shaun Wright-Phillips,
Frank Lampard and Joe Cole.

France v Germany
Saturday November 12th.

Gallas, Makelele and Robert Huth.

Norway v Czech Republic
Saturday November 12th.

World Cup Play-Off First Leg for Petr Cech and recalled on-loan Jirí
Jaroik.

Portugal v Croatia
Saturday November 12th.

Paulo Ferreira and Ricardo Carvalho are selected for this friendly.

Romania v Ivory Coast
In Le Mans.

Saturday November 12th.

Didier Drogba will play in the country of his residence.

Spain v Slovakia
Saturday November 12th.

Asier Del Horno is joined in the Spain squad by Real Betis
midfielder Alberto Rivera, called up for the first time, but not by
Joaquín who has been dropped, for this World Cup Play-Off First Leg.

Cameroon v Morocco
In Paris.

Tuesday November 15th.

Gérémi gets a warm-up game before the African Nations Cup.

France Under 21s v England Under 21s
In Nancy.

Tuesday November 15th.

Diarra v Cole second leg.

Northern Ireland v Portugal
Tuesday November 15th.

A second game for Ferreira and Carvalho.

Czech Republic v Norway
Wednesday November 16th.

Second leg for Cech and Jaroik.

Ivory Coast v Italy
In Geneva.

Wednesday November 16th.

A second game for Drogba.

Qatar v Argentina
Wednesday November 16th.

A second game for Crespo.

Saudi Arabia v Ghana
Wednesday November 16th.

Middle-East action for Michael Essien.

Slovakia v Spain
Wednesday November 16th.

Second leg for Del Horno.

Training with Chelsea on Thursday November 17th!
source: www.chelseafc.or.id

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:19:35 -0800 (PST)
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: 442

Wah gue rasa sih kekalahan beruntun Chelsky, karena ego pemain terlalu besar, contoh :

1. Essien mentang2 sudah mapan jadi starting line up, jadi ingin mencetak gol (mungkin obsesinya kali), padahal pemain lain ada yg lebih save utk cetak gol.
2. Lampard, kasihan saya khawatir di cedera, kalo cedera habislah Chelsky.
3. Pasangan JT dan Gallas (bagus karena Galias didiplin) tapi kelemahan Gallas adalah dia kurang "nakal", tidak seperti Carvalho. Tipikal pemain ini pekerja keras dan sedikit nakal, tapi dari segi intelegensia jelas lebih bagus dari Gallas.
4. Peter Chech kurang teruji, karena pemain belakang Chelsky jempolan, maka tak heran bisa melakukan "blunder"
5. Drogba lebih senang bola2 daerah daripada langsung diarahkan kepada dirinya, karena dia punya speed dan power yang sangat besar, jadi kuncinya Essien lebih banyak menyodorkan umpan daerah kepadanya.
6. JM jangan terlalu meladeni wenger di koran2, hal ini banyak berpengaruh terhadap emosi pemain dilapangan.
7. Yang terakhir, percayalah Tim2 lain mempelajari secara detail setiap jengkal permainan Chelsky, disinilah sebenarnya diuji kematangan taktik dan strategi JM. Jangan sampai dia dinilai berhasil karena pemainnya yang jempolan bukan karena strateginya (artinya pelatih sekelas Iswadi Idris pun yang melatih, Chelsky bisa menang).

Agoeng <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
Wah..sorry Nov lupa ngasih tahu, next time Insya Allah gak lupa..

The Blues soul so teased and tormented
No one knows the pain
You've been through.
The Blues soul so courageous and true
No one knows the real you.

Flying High Up On The Sky
We Keep The Blue Flag Flying High
From Stamford Bridge to Wembley
We Keep The Blue Flag Flying High

C'Mon Chelsea!

agoeng

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:27:06 -0800 (PST)
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

Mengapa Totti? Bullshit liga Italia (liga Italia Liga Diving)
Alasan :
Totti tidak bisa bermain cepat.

Sebaiknya, jual saja Robben (cuma bisa kaki kiri) dan Ferreira (fisik lemah), selanjutnya beli Ronaldo (MU) dan Young (Charlton Athletic)

Sorry saja saat ini tidak ada pemain Italia yang talented

hyde_qalong <hyde_qalong@yahoo.com> wrote:
Menurut saya Formasi harus di rubah menjadi 4-4-2
dengan terry,carvalho,del horno,ferreira di belakang
dan robben,duff,lampard,makelele di tengah
dan crespo,drogba di depan
dengan begini serangan akan lebih kuat yah kalo ada yang mau kasih
masukan yah bisa aja and mohon masukannya agar chelsea lebih bisa
bertanding lebih baik.

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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:32:03 -0800 (PST)
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: uneg-uneg

Hati2 dengan New Castle United (NCU), mereka punya pemain muda kulit hitam di sisi kanan (siapa namanya saya lupa?) bahaya tuh...dan mereka punya EMRE (ini benar2 pemain bandel) yang seharusnya dibeli oleh JM. Bola2 dari second liner nya gila, kaya geledek (ujian buat Petr Chech), kalo owen saya kira bisa dijaga oleh Terry

guzz adhe <guzzadhe@yahoo.com> wrote:Gw gak mau liat Chelsea kalah lagi.nyakitin ati banget!!!!!! moga2 besok2 menang lagi. Kalo perlu kite pesta gol supaya sakit ati jd ilang BRAVO CHELSEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:32:03 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: uneg-uneg

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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 23:34:16 -0800 (PST)
From: atmo hutauruk <atmo_hutauruk2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Warning...!!

Yupe saya setuju, kecuali Del Horno masih pantas, dia punya naluri menyerang yang tinggi....

AGA EN3RGY <amerta_nugraha@yahoo.com> wrote:
Setelah ditahan.. Everton.. 1-1, kalah lawan betis 1 - 0...terakhir, old trafford.. another defeat, 1 - 0...

sepertinya...lawan2 chelsea...sudah mulai mengenali & bisa mengantisipasi taktik yg dijalankan mourinho...

sudah saatnya mourinho mencoba, kombinasi-kombinasi lain...entah 4-4-2,

atau 4-2-3-1 dengan guddy/c.cole/crespo sedikit dibelakang drogba...

atau kenapa tidak coba dengan 3 center back... [terry,carvalho,gallas]..

mudah2an..mourinho segera menemukan solusi yang..tepat...

dan di LC kita bisa libas pool n anderlecht...untuk lolos ke next stage...

sukses...buat the blues...

Keep The Blue Flag Flying High...

Regards..

AGA

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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:02:02 +0700
From: "Lesmana Suhendi" <lesmana.suhendi@frieslandfoods.co.id>
Subject: RE: ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

Ehm.. sebelumnya mohon maaf nih ke bro sekalian mumpung masih suasana lebaran.
Ini adalah kekalahan pertama Chelsea dari 41 pertandingan di liga Premier dan saya mendapati respon dari bro sekalian kok agak negative yah ?
Kalau mau dilihat lagi penyebabnya Chelsea kalah kemaren adalah hanya ada dua menurut saya :
1) D. Flecther bikin gol, yang sebenarnya tidak dapat terjadi (coba aja gol seperti itu gue percaya engga bakalan terjadi lagi dalam 30 hari kedepan)
2) Pemain Chelsea gagal bikin gol. Chelsea babak kedua mengurung MU tapi hasilnya tidak ada
Dan gue yakin Chelsea beda dengan arsenal kekalahan ini tidak akan menghancurkan mental pemainnya.
Kalau memang 4-3-3 atau 4-5-1 itu jelek kok bisa Chelsea saat ini berada di posisi pertama (BTW Arsenal make 4-4-2 loh)
Terus coba deh kita lihat lagi 1-1 lawan Everton : everton sebenarnya adalh team yang sangat bagus dilihat dari materi pemainnya, hanya saja start mereka yang buruk dan mental yang hancur akibat tersingkir dari eropa, jadi sebenarnya draw melawan everton itu bukan hasil yang buruk.
Kalah 0-1 sama MU BTW Chelsea main di Old Traford dan selain itu pemain MU memang memiliki motivasi dan determinasi yang luar biasa malem itu salut untuk mereka, suatu penampilan yang kalau gue yakin sih para pemain MU yang sekarang engga bakalan sanggup ngulangin penampilan seperti itu secara konsisten (hal ini sama seperti penampilan Liverpool waktu lawan Chelsea di Champion), jadi gue yakin bahwa musim ini Chelsea masih bakalan jadi juara.
Kalau mengenai mental pemain Chelsea yang menganggap remeh lawan , kayanya JM adalah orang pertama yang akan mengeluarkan pemain yang tidak memiliki motivasi bermain full,
Mengenai roben musim kemarin dia dan Damien duff sering bertukar posisi loh kadang di kiri kadang dikanan hanya saat ini dia memang belum menunjukkan performa terbaiknya semenjak cedera, jadi sebenarnya engga tepat kalau dibilang dia Cuma bisa main di kiri
Kalau Cristiano R . dia memang pemain bagus tapi kalau dia memang lebih bagus dari winger yang Chelsea punya saat ini gue engga terlalu yakin deh, bukannya dia juga dikenal tukang diving ? dan juga sering bermain individu mengandalkan gocekkannya (persis seperti JC musim kemarin).

Aduh jadi panjang nih nulisnya,
Jangan jadi gelap mata karena kekalahan ini dan langsung berpikiran JM adalah Idiot dan Chelsa Cuma sekumpulan pemain Over Rated.
Kalau memang JM idiot dan pelatih lain lebih baik apakah ada yang bisa menyebutkan pelatih yang memiliki prestsi lebih baik dari dia ?
Champion,Uefa,Liga Portugal,Premier, Carling Cup,Community Shield,World Series Champion 2005, dan semuanya dilakukan kurang dari 5 tahun
Apa ada yang lebih baik dari dia tentunya yang sekarang masih aktif?

Lesmana

Believe in JM the special one

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Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [chelseafc.or.id] ApA Yang Salah Dengan CHeLsea

Mengapa Totti? Bullshit liga Italia (liga Italia Liga Diving)
Alasan :
Totti tidak bisa bermain cepat. "(setau gue totti kalau dapat bola engga pernah lama dikakinya itu bola begitu nempel biasanya sih langsung dioper)

Sebaiknya, jual saja Robben (cuma bisa kaki kiri) dan Ferreira (fisik lemah), selanjutnya beli Ronaldo (MU) dan Young (Charlton Athletic)

Sorry saja saat ini tidak ada pemain Italia yang talented

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[usblues] Digest Number 1182

2005-11-05T15:17:00.000-08:00

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1. Referee Question
From: "Andy Burbidge" <andy@midwest-blues.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:19:46 -0500
From: "Andy Burbidge" <andy@midwest-blues.com>
Subject: Referee Question

For those budding refs amongst you I have posted an interesting refereeing
decission question to the Chelsea in America BB. Take a look and let me
know what you think...

http://www.chelseainamerica.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=506

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[usblues] Digest Number 1181

2005-11-04T15:01:00.000-08:00

There are 3 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: Julian Childs <bluejulesboston@yahoo.com>
2. Re: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: Julian Childs <bluejulesboston@yahoo.com>
3. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "jt rules" <cfcfan@charter.net>

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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:28:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Julian Childs <bluejulesboston@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Oh yeah sorry Beth forgot to mention. JT is obviously number 1, Billy is number 2 in that partnership,... is that better ;)

jt rules <cfcfan@charter.net> wrote:Julian you know I "love ya" but honestly do you really think I could sit
back and imagine that JT isn't perfect in every way!!!!! Don't get me wrong
Billy is wonderful and I much prefer Billy next to JT over anyone else, but
JT is EVERYTHING!!!!! He has pace, he stays on his feet, and very adaptable
(Wobbly don't go there!!!), and as far as decisions, well those days of bad
decisions are far behind him.

Sorry just had to say it!!!! ; )

Beth

JOHN TERRY RULES!!!!!!

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From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Julian Childs
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:28 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

My theory on Gallas is this .... pure speculation of course ;)

Billy is everything JT is not ..which is why they make the perfect pairing
at centre back - JT wins everything, reads the game brilliantly, is a
natural leader and is hard as nails to boot. Gallas has pace, stays on his
feet, can adapt to any situation and makes great decisions. Therein you have
the best centre back pairing in the EPL ... (check the stats when Gallas
and JT are a partnership .. it's scary good)

... problem is Jose straight away puts his neck out and spends a brazillion
quid on Carvahlo .. who is being touted in Europe as the best in the world.
His boy you could say.. but seizing his moment at the top Ricky isn't about
to be a benchwarmer and actually sees himself more in the JT leadership role
(sorry mate never gonna happen at Chels.) Of course Jose also wants to show
his transfer judgement is good and so tries to accomodate RC

Because neither JT or RC can play full back and JT is capo then it has to be
Gallas who either slips out wide or sits out.

However Gallas is French (and a bloody good player) therefore not best
pleased at sitting down either BUT more importantly a major transfer target
for a certain Frenchman on the North side of town. Jose is desperate not to
loose Gallas to a major rival therefore would rather play him somewhere than
not at all and hopefully keep him happy.

Paulo is a good guy, portuguese and like a son to Jose so will do what his
told, Del boy is young and has time on his side so also is not going to
question sitting for a game or two.

Add to that Gallas is his own worst enemy becuase he is so flexible and can
play any position at the back unlike any of the others. Therefore always
good to have on the pitch if Jose wants to change things around.

IMO our back four should always be Paulo, JT, Gallas and Del Boy unless
injuries or loss of form mean their replaced by their backup (johnson, huth,
RC and Bridgey)

I have a horrible feeling we'll end up losing Gallas in the summer but of
course in Jose we trust...

Blue Jules

ps. shame the manc's lost tonight !! LOL

Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net> wrote:
Hi Mick,

As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
yellow and the tempo of the game.

I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as PF
has been on the bench

and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is preferred
on the right! I just don't get the

Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of! Also
maybe he was wanting some

Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!

We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!

ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)

Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
premier league and suffer in

Europe! Talk about bandwagon...

Cheers,

Hoss

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From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mick Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
To: US BLUES
Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings in
people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being beat
on the ground.

Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass to
one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.

BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and trust
me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked that
Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!

Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some of
the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles up/down
and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.

Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!

Mick

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> Again today
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> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
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> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
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Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 14:34:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Julian Childs <bluejulesboston@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

very true - but you'd still have to sub one defender and arguably Paulo or Del Horno could easily slot into a back three also.

just think there's more to it than pure tactics.

Be interesting to see who plays on Sunday presuming it would be Jose strongest back 4 ???

Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com> wrote:
That's one theory. The other is that with billy, john and ricky
on the field the team can revert to a back three without any
substitutions.

Les.

> My theory on Gallas is this .... pure speculation of course ;)
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:09:51 -0600
From: "jt rules" <cfcfan@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Thanks my dear, just so you don't forget

-----Original Message-----
From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Julian Childs
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:28 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Oh yeah sorry Beth forgot to mention. JT is obviously number 1, Billy is
number 2 in that partnership,... is that better ;)

jt rules <cfcfan@charter.net> wrote:Julian you know I "love ya" but honestly
do you really think I could sit back and imagine that JT isn't perfect in
every way!!!!! Don't get me wrong Billy is wonderful and I much prefer Billy
next to JT over anyone else, but JT is EVERYTHING!!!!! He has pace, he stays
on his feet, and very adaptable (Wobbly don't go there!!!), and as far as
decisions, well those days of bad decisions are far behind him.

Sorry just had to say it!!!! ; )

Beth

JOHN TERRY RULES!!!!!!

My theory on Gallas is this .... pure speculation of course ;)

Because neither JT or RC can play full back and JT is capo then it has to be
Gallas who either slips out wide or sits out.

Paulo is a good guy, portuguese and like a son to Jose so will do what his
told, Del boy is young and has time on his side so also is not going to
question sitting for a game or two.

IMO our back four should always be Paulo, JT, Gallas and Del Boy unless
injuries or loss of form mean their replaced by their backup (johnson, huth,
RC and Bridgey)

I have a horrible feeling we'll end up losing Gallas in the summer but of
course in Jose we trust...

Blue Jules

ps. shame the manc's lost tonight !! LOL

Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net> wrote:
Hi Mick,

As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
yellow and the tempo of the game.

I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as PF
has been on the bench

and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is preferred
on the right! I just don't get the

Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of! Also
maybe he was wanting some

Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!

We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!

ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)

Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
premier league and suffer in

Europe! Talk about bandwagon...

Cheers,

Hoss

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[usblues] Digest Number 1179

2005-11-02T14:32:00.000-08:00

There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. re: Group G qualifiers ...
From: Bigbluegan@aol.com
2. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
3. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
4. Re: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
5. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
6. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
7. RE: re: Group G qualifiers ...
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
8. Re: re: Group G qualifiers ...
From: Bigbluegan@aol.com
9. RE: re: Group G qualifiers ...
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
10. Re: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
11. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
12. Re: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
13. RE: where did the 4 goals go part II
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
14. Uh oh....
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:19:04 EST
From: Bigbluegan@aol.com
Subject: re: Group G qualifiers ...

A bit of a longshot, but still possible .... CFC and Betis are the
quailfiers from Group G ....

CFC wins at Anderlecht and at the Bridge versus the Scousers ..... Betis
wins at 'Pool ( another shocker) and at home versus Anderlecht .....

Steven might still be correct that we knock 'em out on 12/6 ....

Be well GAN

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:22:13 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Quite agree!

I also don't get using Gallas all over the back line ALL the time while
everyone seems to be fit

for their positions (last couple of weeks)!

Betis and the ref managed to get under our skin. We were
uncharacteristically complaining too

much and rushing it a bit too much as well, rather than shaking off all of
it as we normally do and get

on with it.

I remember looking at the match clock on 66 minutes and thinking there was
plenty of time and yet

we looked to be rushing it and long balling it as though there were 3
minutes to go. (rather than control

the tempo of the match as we normally do).

Rant over.

Cheers,

Hoss

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To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Again today

Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...

And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
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Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:56:48 -0500
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Granted, it was an away fixture, but I'm a little surprised Mourinho didn't
take off PF and put on Drogs ( a la Bolton) to allow Guddy to play deeper
and to force them onto their back foot. Save that, revert to a 4-4-2 by
putting Drogs on For Essien.

It will be interesting to see how Jose deals without Drogs, Essien, and to a
lewsser degree Geremi when the African Nations Cup kicks off.

T H

From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Reply-To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:22:13 -0500

Quite agree!

I also don't get using Gallas all over the back line ALL the time while
everyone seems to be fit

for their positions (last couple of weeks)!

Betis and the ref managed to get under our skin. We were
uncharacteristically complaining too

much and rushing it a bit too much as well, rather than shaking off all of
it as we normally do and get

on with it.

I remember looking at the match clock on 66 minutes and thinking there was
plenty of time and yet

we looked to be rushing it and long balling it as though there were 3
minutes to go. (rather than control

the tempo of the match as we normally do).

Rant over.

Cheers,

Hoss

_____

Again today

Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...

And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
thing RC does is annoying.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:04:33 -0500
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
Subject: Re: where did the 4 goals go part II

Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!

Mick

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:06:32 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Good point Tom, specially with two of their better (attacking?) players
injured and subbed out

in the first 20 minutes or so would of made a lot of sense! Hmmmm.

Not to be second guessing Jose, mind! ;-)

Now get your arse back to England, will ya?

Cheers,

Hoss

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T H
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:57 AM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

It will be interesting to see how Jose deals without Drogs, Essien, and to a

lewsser degree Geremi when the African Nations Cup kicks off.

T H

From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Reply-To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:22:13 -0500

Quite agree!

I also don't get using Gallas all over the back line ALL the time while
everyone seems to be fit

for their positions (last couple of weeks)!

Betis and the ref managed to get under our skin. We were
uncharacteristically complaining too

much and rushing it a bit too much as well, rather than shaking off all of
it as we normally do and get

on with it.

I remember looking at the match clock on 66 minutes and thinking there was
plenty of time and yet

we looked to be rushing it and long balling it as though there were 3
minutes to go. (rather than control

the tempo of the match as we normally do).

Rant over.

Cheers,

Hoss

_____

Again today

Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...

And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Hi Mick,

As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
yellow and the tempo of the game.

I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as PF
has been on the bench

and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is preferred
on the right! I just don't get the

Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of! Also
maybe he was wanting some

Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!

We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!

ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)

Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
premier league and suffer in

Europe! Talk about bandwagon...

Cheers,

Hoss

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:33:16 -0500
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: re: Group G qualifiers ...

A very long shot as the Scousers will want to remove all doubt before they
go to London. Eleven points will get a team through, but a team could also
miss out with 11 points.

In the next set of matches Betis needs to win to stay alive while the
Scousers only need a draw to advance. If we win and the Scousers win we're
through easily as we can't be caught. If the Scousers draw and we win, we
advance because of tie-breaker number 2 below. If we draw or lose to
Anderlecht, we'll have to win the home leg against the Scousers regardless
of what happens at Anfield.

One has to assume Betis will beat Anderlecht. If the Scousers lose to Betis
and we win at Anderlecht, it get's really complicated. If we tie the
Scousers with a score, we'll be out through tie-breaker 3. If we tie 0-0,
then goal difference will come into play through tie-breaker 4 (we are
presently one goal behind in GD). Fortunate for us, it appears if we win
our next match and the Scousers lose their next match, there is no way the
tie-breakers go past number 4 and we'll go through.

1) Points earned in head-to-head matches between the tied teams.
2) Total goals scored in head-to-head matches between the tied teams.
3) Away goals scored in head-to-head matches between the tied teams.
4) Cumulative goal difference in all group matches.
5) Total goals scored in all group matches.
6) Higher UEFA coefficient going into the competition.

T H

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To: usblues@yahoogroups.com, jay.mcalpine@wachoviasec.com,
cmac13@hotmail.com
Subject: [usblues] re: Group G qualifiers ...
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:19:04 EST

A bit of a longshot, but still possible .... CFC and Betis are the
quailfiers from Group G ....

CFC wins at Anderlecht and at the Bridge versus the Scousers ..... Betis
wins at 'Pool ( another shocker) and at home versus Anderlecht .....

Steven might still be correct that we knock 'em out on 12/6 ....

Be well GAN

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:36:39 EST
From: Bigbluegan@aol.com
Subject: Re: re: Group G qualifiers ...

thank you for the thorough explanantion ... maybe, just maybe???

GAN

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:42:48 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: re: Group G qualifiers ...

Greg,

I would love nothing less mate, as unlikely as it seems! I hope you're
right!

Tom...you just gave me a head-ache mate! Bloody 'ell. ;-)

Cheers,

Hoss

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thank you for the thorough explanantion ... maybe, just maybe???

GAN

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:55:50 -0500
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
Subject: Re: where did the 4 goals go part II

Hoss

I know what you mean about Joeys yellow but sometimes you have to say Bow
Locks to that if you consider that the player is being effective.

Never mind PF what about Del Boy he wasn't even on the bench....I think he
tried too hard in the first game but he is Spanish and he is used to the
blatant 'Latin' tricks that Betis pulled (condoned by a cr@p ref) last
night.

Nahhhhhh we are not turning into Arse....we can still win the Treble and
they are out of it!!!!!!

I hope Manure get taken apart again tonight and if they do we can finish off
the Garden Gnomes reign on Sunday

Mick

> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Hi Mick,
>
>
>
> As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
> yellow and the tempo of the game.
>
>
>
> I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as PF
> has been on the bench
>
> and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is preferred
> on the right! I just don't get the
>
> Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of! Also
> maybe he was wanting some
>
> Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!
>
>
>
> We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!
>
> ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)
>
>
>
> Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
> premier league and suffer in
>
> Europe! Talk about bandwagon...
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hoss
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Mick Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
> To: US BLUES
> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
>
>
> I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
> fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
> bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
> enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
> changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings in
> people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being beat
> on the ground.
>
> Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
> guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass to
> one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
> always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.
>
> BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
> and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and trust
> me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
> scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
> Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked that
> Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!
>
> Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some of
> the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles up/down
> and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
> players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.
>
> Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!
>
> Mick
>
>
>> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>> Again today
>>
>> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
>> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>>
>> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
>> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
>> thing RC does is annoying.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:04:37 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Mick,

Jose said something on the website about an injury (small knock of some
kind) to Del Horno, hence

not on the bench! But I certainly agree with the general premise of this
over the last couple of weeks!

I understand your point on Joey, but a second yellow would have been harsh
on the team in the

second half! (not in hindsight, mind). Imagine playing that team and that
ref in that ground with ten.

I bet he had no confidence in the ref!

Regardless, we'll make up for this at OT!

Cheers,

Hoss

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Mick Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:56 AM
To: US BLUES
Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Hoss

I know what you mean about Joeys yellow but sometimes you have to say Bow
Locks to that if you consider that the player is being effective.

Nahhhhhh we are not turning into Arse....we can still win the Treble and
they are out of it!!!!!!

I hope Manure get taken apart again tonight and if they do we can finish off
the Garden Gnomes reign on Sunday

Mick

> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Hi Mick,
>
>
>
> As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
> yellow and the tempo of the game.
>
>
>
> I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as
PF
> has been on the bench
>
> and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is
preferred
> on the right! I just don't get the
>
> Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of!
Also
> maybe he was wanting some
>
> Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!
>
>
>
> We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!
>
> ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)
>
>
>
> Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
> premier league and suffer in
>
> Europe! Talk about bandwagon...
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hoss
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> Mick Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
> To: US BLUES
> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
>
>
> I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
> fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
> bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
> enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
> changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings
in
> people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being
beat
> on the ground.
>
> Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
> guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass
to
> one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
> always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.
>
> BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
> and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and
trust
> me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
> scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
> Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked
that
> Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!
>
> Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some
of
> the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles
up/down
> and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
> players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.
>
> Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!
>
> Mick
>
>
>> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>> Again today
>>
>> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
>> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>>
>> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
>> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
>> thing RC does is annoying.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Be sure to visit our website at http://www.us-blues.com
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>>
>>
>>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 10:14:51 -0500
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
Subject: Re: where did the 4 goals go part II

Hoss

We ended up with 6 yellows and one of them was a second for SWP which means
he misses the next game so not sure you point is valid.....and we were
playing the 12 of them with 10 for a large part of the game :-)

C'mon you Blues...the blip is over!!!!!

Mick

> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:04:37 -0500
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Mick,
>
>
>
> Jose said something on the website about an injury (small knock of some
> kind) to Del Horno, hence
>
> not on the bench! But I certainly agree with the general premise of this
> over the last couple of weeks!
>
>
>
> I understand your point on Joey, but a second yellow would have been harsh
> on the team in the
>
> second half! (not in hindsight, mind). Imagine playing that team and that
> ref in that ground with ten.
>
> I bet he had no confidence in the ref!
>
>
>
> Regardless, we'll make up for this at OT!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hoss
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Mick Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:56 AM
> To: US BLUES
> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
>
>
> Hoss
>
> I know what you mean about Joeys yellow but sometimes you have to say Bow
> Locks to that if you consider that the player is being effective.
>
> Never mind PF what about Del Boy he wasn't even on the bench....I think he
> tried too hard in the first game but he is Spanish and he is used to the
> blatant 'Latin' tricks that Betis pulled (condoned by a cr@p ref) last
> night.
>
> Nahhhhhh we are not turning into Arse....we can still win the Treble and
> they are out of it!!!!!!
>
> I hope Manure get taken apart again tonight and if they do we can finish off
> the Garden Gnomes reign on Sunday
>
> Mick
>
>
>> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
>> yellow and the tempo of the game.
>>
>>
>>
>> I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as
> PF
>> has been on the bench
>>
>> and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is
> preferred
>> on the right! I just don't get the
>>
>> Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of!
> Also
>> maybe he was wanting some
>>
>> Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!
>>
>> ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in the
>> premier league and suffer in
>>
>> Europe! Talk about bandwagon...
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hoss
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
>> Mick Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
>> To: US BLUES
>> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>>
>>
>> I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
>> fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
>> bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it is
>> enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
>> changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings
> in
>> people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being
> beat
>> on the ground.
>>
>> Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
>> guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass
> to
>> one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
>> always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.
>>
>> BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the bandwagon
>> and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and
> trust
>> me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
>> scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
>> Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked
> that
>> Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!
>>
>> Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some
> of
>> the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles
> up/down
>> and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
>> players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.
>>
>> Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
>>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>>
>>> Again today
>>>
>>> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
>>> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>>>
>>> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
>>> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
>>> thing RC does is annoying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:26:28 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: where did the 4 goals go part II

Fair enough Mick!
Have a great day mate.

Cheers,

Hoss

_____

From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Mick Collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:15 AM
To: US BLUES
Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II

Hoss

C'mon you Blues...the blip is over!!!!!

Mick

> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:04:37 -0500
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
> Mick,
>
>
>
> Jose said something on the website about an injury (small knock of some
> kind) to Del Horno, hence
>
> not on the bench! But I certainly agree with the general premise of this
> over the last couple of weeks!
>
>
>
> I understand your point on Joey, but a second yellow would have been harsh
> on the team in the
>
> second half! (not in hindsight, mind). Imagine playing that team and that
> ref in that ground with ten.
>
> I bet he had no confidence in the ref!
>
>
>
> Regardless, we'll make up for this at OT!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hoss
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of
> Mick Collins
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:56 AM
> To: US BLUES
> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>
>
>
> Hoss
>
> I know what you mean about Joeys yellow but sometimes you have to say Bow
> Locks to that if you consider that the player is being effective.
>
> Never mind PF what about Del Boy he wasn't even on the bench....I think he
> tried too hard in the first game but he is Spanish and he is used to the
> blatant 'Latin' tricks that Betis pulled (condoned by a cr@p ref) last
> night.
>
> Nahhhhhh we are not turning into Arse....we can still win the Treble and
> they are out of it!!!!!!
>
> I hope Manure get taken apart again tonight and if they do we can finish
off
> the Garden Gnomes reign on Sunday
>
> Mick
>
>
>> From: Hoss Moini <hossmoini@charter.net>
>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 09:15:13 -0500
>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>> Hi Mick,
>>
>>
>>
>> As far as Joey, I agree but last night I am betting it was down to his
>> yellow and the tempo of the game.
>>
>>
>>
>> I certainly agree about Gallas and am somewhat confused on that issue, as
> PF
>> has been on the bench
>>
>> and available (no injuries as far as I can tell) and yet Gallas is
> preferred
>> on the right! I just don't get the
>>
>> Gallas issue. I am sure it's an internal issue that we're not aware of!
> Also
>> maybe he was wanting some
>>
>> Fresh legs for Sunday (although definitely not Gallas')!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> We were certainly playing out of character, pure and simple!
>>
>> ManUre can not be happy about this loss either! :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally, I hope we're not turning into an Arsenal where we do great in
the
>> premier league and suffer in
>>
>> Europe! Talk about bandwagon...
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hoss
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of
>> Mick Collins
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:05 AM
>> To: US BLUES
>> Subject: Re: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>
>>
>>
>> I couldn't agree more and while we are at it how about playing proper
>> fullbacks in a game for once after all we did spend quite a few bob on
>> bringing them in.....instead of Gallas on the right then on the left it
is
>> enough to test even him as a player to expect him to keep chopping and
>> changing. JM seems obsessed with countering teams that are tall so brings
> in
>> people that are good in the air...IMHO it's not working as we are being
> beat
>> on the ground.
>>
>> Finally I can someone explain to me just why Joe Cole is always the fall
>> guy? Robben could not string a row of pearls last night let alone a pass
> to
>> one of his own players yet he stayed on the pitch. Although Joey does not
>> always do everything right he tries and show that he is passionate.
>>
>> BTW - just because we have lost one game I am not jumping on the
bandwagon
>> and criticising for the sake of it. I was at the game on Saturday and
> trust
>> me we were bloody awful for the 35 minutes in the first half after we
>> scored and in the second half we were slightly better but were lucky that
>> Blackburn were a disjointed shower........some wag in the crowd cracked
> that
>> Savage had Bird Flu because he was running round like a chicken!!!
>>
>> Again I am no expert but we seem to have stopped or toned down doing some
> of
>> the things that got us where we are like playing in pairs/triangles
> up/down
>> and across the park also defending from the front. Finally ALL of our
>> players have to execute whatever they are assigned to do.
>>
>> Bottom line.....give me a dodgy 1-0 at Manure and I will be happy.!!!!!!
>>
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>> From: jjcbeme <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:22:05 -0000
>>> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: [usblues] where did the 4 goals go part II
>>>
>>> Again today
>>>
>>> Robben seems to be out of sorts with everyone else. Not cohesive like
>>> we are with Cole, Gudj, Duff...
>>>
>>> And we need to get Gallas back inside. Since they brough Carvalho
>>> back in with JT, we give up to many goals. Plus that finger waive
>>> thing RC does is annoying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:25:45 -0500
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: Uh oh....

Lille up one on 39 minutes.......:-)

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Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
2. Re: Baros closes in on Villa return
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
3. Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
4. Re: Foxes on fire ?
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
5. Doctors 'not giving up on Best'
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
6. Hearts target Ranieri and Robson
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
7. Henry doubtful for Spurs contest
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
8. Gascoigne named as Kettering boss
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
9. Pardew extends West Ham contract
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
10. Robson leads tributes to Haynes
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
11. Kewell included in play-off squad
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
12. FA gives Robinson three-match ban
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
13. England Women ease to biggest win
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
14. West Brom suffer Kirkland injury
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
15. Friday's gossip column
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
16. Baggies recall Hoult from Forest
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
17. Brighton awaiting Falmer verdict
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
18. Bruce quits loan deal at Rovers
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
19. Trivia League, 10/28/2005, 8:00 am
From: EnglishFootball

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:12:06 +0100 (BST)
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

A much better performance from Everton but not enough
to prevent them exiting from The Carling Cup.Given
their history in Cup competitions this season I bet
they'll be glad to get back to dragging themselves
away from the relegation zone.There's definitely
better days ahead for David Moyes and let's hope he's
around long enough to see them.
Sam
--- Maddie <madsmcfc@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
> Middlesbrough poured more misery on struggling
> Everton, knocking them out of the Carling Cup in the
> third round.
> A series of fine saves from Nigel Martyn
> denied Mark Viduka and James Morrison as Boro
> pressed forward.

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:16:39 +0100 (BST)
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Baros closes in on Villa return

They will be delighted to have a striker like Baros
back on board again after his injury problem.Villa
have been dogged by injury problems for as long as I
can remember-goodness knows what they'd be like if
David O'Leary had a fully fit squad to pick from.
Sam
--- Maddie <madsmcfc@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Baros closes in on Villa return
> Aston Villa striker Milan Baros is bidding to
> return to action against Manchester City on Monday
> following an Achilles tendon problem.

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:46:45 +0100 (BST)
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton

Not a great night for Huth really whenever you
consider it was his poor back header that led to the
Bent equaliser.
Sam
--- Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
wrote:

> This was a surprise, not a humiliating shock
> though!!!!
>
> He could say that the Chelsea player that missed the
> vital spot kick,
> "huthed" it over the bar

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:58:27 +0100 (BST)
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Foxes on fire ?

Yes a very good result for Leicester and fully
deserved to against a Cardiff side going so well too.A
cup run will boost the coffers at the Walker Stadium
and obviously be a boost to the players
confidence.Some big names have gone crashing out so
anyone could win it now IMO.
Sam
--- Steve H 100% Fox <thurmastonfox70@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

> Three wins in four have ignited the Leicester flames
> somewhat . A great
> win over Coventry , followed by progression to the
> last 16 in the
> League Cup . Top stuff ! It might not be the number
> one cup in this
> country but i can name a few teams dissappointed to
> be out of it !

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:43:22 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Doctors 'not giving up on Best'

Doctors 'not giving up on Best'

George Best received a liver transplant in 2002

Football legend George Best remains seriously ill in hospital, but "we are not giving up", his consultant says.
Professor Roger Williams said Best, 59, had an unexplained bowel infection, which was causing internal bleeding, but stressed that he remained stable.
The ex-Manchester United and Northern Ireland star was admitted to Cromwell Hospital in London three weeks ago, suffering flu-like symptoms.
Best, who had a liver transplant in 2002, is not thought to be conscious.
'Nasty complication'
Professor Williams said on Thursday evening: "His condition is stable but he does have a particularly nasty complication with bleeding from his bowel.
GEORGE BEST'S HEALTH
March 2000: Severe liver damage diagnosed
February 2001: Treated for pneumonia
April 2001: Anti-alcohol pellets implanted into his stomach
July 2002: Undergoes liver transplant
November 2004: Routine operation to check on liver transplant
October 2005: Treated for kidney infection in intensive care

Best's frequent health scares
Decline of the golden boy

"It is a complication that we don't fully understand, we don't know why this is happening and have, this afternoon, changed all of his antibiotics to try to get on top of it."
He said microbiologists had confirmed that the infection was not linked to MRSA and added: "I can't say how serious the infection is and the bleeding comes and goes.
"I have looked after him for a long time and we are not giving up."
He said that Best "still had every chance of pulling through this".
He added: "The chances of that, I couldn't put a figure on it, it would be just a guess.
"He's a very tough fighter, he's been through many other crises," he said.
He said the problems were not directly linked to Best's replacement liver, which was functioning well.
But he has previously said Best is more susceptible to illness due to medication to suppress the immune system and prevent his body rejecting the liver.

Prayers
Ex-wife Alex Best has said: "I am just praying that, once again, he somehow manages to pull through against all the odds. My thoughts and prayers are with him."
Son Calum, who visited the private hospital on Thursday, earlier told the BBC his father's condition was "touch and go".
Best scored 178 goals in 466 appearances for Manchester United

Best's agent, Phil Hughes, brought him to Cromwell Hospital earlier this month to be treated for flu-like symptoms including shortness of breath.
The ex-footballer developed a kidney infection and has not left the hospital since. He was admitted to intensive care.
Best was arguably the most naturally gifted British footballer of his generation.
He made his professional debut for Manchester United in 1963, aged 17, and helped the club become the first English side to lift the European Cup, in 1968.
He was voted both English and European Footballer of the Year that season and also won 37 caps for Northern Ireland.

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:44:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Hearts target Ranieri and Robson

Hearts target Ranieri and Robson

Romanov wants football director

Hearts have spoken to Sir Bobby Robson and former Chelsea manager Claudio Ranieri about the vacant manager's position at Tynecastle.
Chief executive Phil Anderton met with both men in Edinburgh as he looks for a replacement for George Burley.
A club spokesman said: "We can confirm talks with various applicants, including both Ranieri and Robson.
"That is in line with the type of pedigree that we are looking for and we are encouraged by the talks so far."
Ranieri managed Chelsea from 2000 to 2004, taking them to second in the English Premiership, before he was replaced with Jose Mourhino.
He has also managed at Fiorentina and Atletico Madrid and his second stint at Valencia ended in February after just eight months.
Ranieri, who also steered Chelsea to a Champions League semi-final, told BBC Sport he was keen for a return to English football earlier this month.
The 53-year-old is currently living in Rome, doing occasional media work.
Former England and Newcastle boss Robson is 20 years older than the Italian but is also being considered by ambitious Hearts.
We've had well over 20 expressions of interest from top quality managers

George Foulkes
Hearts chairman

Hearts chairman George Foulkes said: "I would prefer not to talk about the individual arrangements because we don't want it all to take place in the media - but Bobby Robson is one of the people we are looking at, there's no doubt about that.
"We've had well over 20 expressions of interest from top quality managers, household names with great experience which confirms what I said that this is a plum job.
"We're sounding out people, we're having informal discussions with people and it will take some time to do that.
"Some of them are in other parts of the United Kingdom and some are overseas.
Hungary coach Lothar Matthaus is thought to be interested in the post, along with ex-Parma boss Nevio Scala.
Hearts are also keen to talk to sacked Republic of Ireland boss Brian Kerr.
Anderton told the club website on Wednesday: "I am close to finalising a short-list and every one of them is a manager with top-class European pedigree.
"My sole concern is to ensure the board are presented with a selection of managers that can deliver success."
Burley parted company with the SPL leaders following a disagreement with Vladimir Romanov, reportedly concerning the major shareholder's interference with team affairs.
Interim boss John McGlynn has said he could be interested in the vacancy but is unlikely to have the public profile demanded by majority shareholder Vladimir Romanov.
"I would not knock the job back," he said.
"I'm not saying I am putting my hat into the ring but if I was offered it then it would be an honour and a privilege to take it."

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:45:18 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Henry doubtful for Spurs contest

Henry doubtful for Spurs contest

Thierry Henry's career statistics

Arsenal striker Thierry Henry is a major doubt for the north London derby after suffering a setback in his recovery from a groin injury.
Henry returned from six weeks out in the Champions League win against Sparta Prague last week but is struggling.
"There is a bit of uncertainty about Thierry," said manager Arsene Wenger. "He had a little bit of a setback.
"We pushed him in early and need to get him completely back to where he can perform. He is 30-70 against playing."
Henry wil play - this is all part of Wenger's mind games

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Henry scored twice against Sparta to earn his side victory and then played 90 minutes in the 1-0 win over Manchester City four days later.
Wenger does have better news with Jose Antonio Reyes returning to fitness after bruised ribs and Freddie Ljungberg after a hamstring injury.

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:46:22 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Gascoigne named as Kettering boss

Gascoigne named as Kettering boss

Gascoigne has never previously managed a football club

Paul Gascoigne has taken his first managerial role in football after being named as boss of Kettering Town.
The 38-year-old - part of a consortium that has taken over the club - will work with former Arsenal midfielder Paul Davis, named as a coach.
"It feels good, I'm excited. I know it's Kettering Town and it isn't Premiership football," Gascoigne said.
"But the plans we have worked on with (consortium leader) Imraan Ladak for the past six weeks have been exciting."
The Midlands club, founded in 1872, is currently fifth in the Conference North - two divisions below the Football League.
They have been drawing crowds of about 1,000 to league games this season, and Gascoigne said the aim was to become a league club.
"They haven't been in the Football League in 133 years, so that will be one of the main objectives to get this team up there. That will be something for the supporters to look forward to," he said.
"I'm not going to say we'll do it this season or next season, there's a lot we can improve on, whether that's with the players we've got now or the players we bring in."
Just because he was a good player does not mean he will succeed there

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Gascoigne won 57 England caps and was widely regarded as the most talented British player of his generation.
He was part of the Tottenham Hotspur team that won the FA Cup in 1991 although he seriously damaged his knee in a wild tackle early in the first half of their 2-1 extra-time win over Nottingham Forest.
This was the first in a series of injury problems, especially during his three years at Lazio.
He returned to Britain to find success at Rangers in Scotland, where he won the league title, before moving to Middlesbrough and Everton.
He played briefly for China's Gansu Tianma and England's Boston United as player-coach before retiring as a player in 2004.
Consortium leader Ladak said he would make money available for Gascoigne to spend, but stressed the club would not have unlimited funds.
"We've had a look at a couple of players over the past few weeks. A couple of clubs have come up with extortionate prices because they feel that the club's going to be awash with money," he said.
"We have a stadium issue that we need to sort out urgently because our lease is due to run out in the next few years.
"So while there will be money to spend, we won't be paying anything over an acceptable price for players."

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:44:40 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Pardew extends West Ham contract

Pardew extends West Ham contract

Pardew controversially joined West Ham from Reading

West Ham manager Alan Pardew has agreed a new five-year deal that will keep him at Upton Park until 2010.
Pardew, who has steered West Ham into ninth place on their Premiership return, is due to sign the contract after Saturday's game at Liverpool.
"I am delighted that Alan Pardew has committed his future to this club.
"He is one of the brightest young managers in the game and we are proud to have him at Upton Park," chairman Terry Brown told the club website.
To deliver quality Prem football with the financial constraints and the pressure he's been under is the stuff dreams are made of. He deserves his contract

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"I have already paid tribute to the leadership qualities that brought West Ham United promotion to the Premier League but he has achieved much more than that over the last two years.
"Alan has shown himself to be a shrewd judge in the transfer market and I have been particularly impressed by the way he balances the success on the field against the business demands of this club.
"It has enabled us to put West Ham United in a strong financial position and build on last season's successes rather than simply stabilise.
"He has built an exciting young squad in the tradition of West Ham United and the club is full of optimism for the future."

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:46:50 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Robson leads tributes to Haynes

Robson leads tributes to Haynes

Stars pay tribute to Haynes

Sir Bobby Robson has led the tributes after the funeral of former Fulham and England player Johnny Haynes.
Robson joined Sir Bobby Charlton, Alan Mullery, George Cohen and England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson to pay his respects at the service in Edinburgh.
"He was a wonderful passer of the ball, one of the best I've seen and I've been in football 50 years," said Robson.
"I've seen a lot of great players but in that sense he was unsurpassed. He was a valued friend."
Robson admitted his "distress" at the loss of Haynes, who died last week at the age of 71 after being involved in a car crash.
"The service was nice, very distinguished and George Cohen spoke especially well about Johnny," Robson said.
"We've lost a great friend, a great chum and he was a maestro in footballing terms.
"It's distressing. It's a long time since I was so distressed about the death of anybody to be honest."
Eriksson said: "I came to pay my respects to a great football player, he was a former England captain with 50 or 60 caps so I respect that.
"I have heard a lot about him and many say that (Roberto) Mancini played like him so he must have been a genius."
The first player to earn more than £100-per-week, Haynes was described as the David Beckham of his era.
The inside forward made 594 appearances for Fulham and won 56 England caps.
Haynes was taken to the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary last Monday after an accident on Dalry Road and died a day later.
The Craven Cottage club held a minute's silence in honour of "The Maestro" before their 2-0 win over Liverpool on Saturday.
Haynes had a spell as player-manager of Fulham after Sir Bobby Robson was sacked in 1968 and during his career turned down moves to Tottenham and AC Milan.

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:45:52 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: Kewell included in play-off squad

Kewell included in play-off squad

Kewell has only just returned to action for Liverpool

Australia have included Harry Kewell in their squad for next month's two-legged World Cup play-off against Uruguay.
The Liverpool midfielder was picked despite two groin operations in the last five months, but Newcastle's Craig Moore is out with a hamstring injury.
Kewell is one of 11 English-based players in the party, although Wigan goalkeeper John Filan is not included.
The first leg is in Montevideo on 12 November, with the return in Sydney on 16 November.
Australia's sole appearance at the World Cup was in 1974, in Germany, but they have lost play-off matches for places at the last two tournaments, losing to Uruguay last time in 2002.
FC Thun defender Ljubo Milicevic is the only addition to the squad that beat Jamaica 5-0 in London earlier this month.
"I've now had the opportunity to work with this group of players a few times and we continue to make improvements," said Hiddink.
"We have picked a squad that is flexible and will be able to adapt. This will be important across the two legs."
Australia will compete in the Asian qualifying group for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa, rather than the Oceania group as they do at the moment, which should boost their chances of an securing an automatic qualifying place.
Australian squad for two-legged World Cup play-off against Uruguay: John Aloisi (Alaves, Spain), Marco Bresciano (Parma, Italy), Tim Cahill (Everton), Scott Chipperfield (Basel, Switzerland), Ante Covic (Hammarby, Sweden), Jason Culina (PSV Eindhoven), Ahmad Elrich (Fulham), Brett Emerton (Blackburn Rovers), Vince Grella (Parma, Italy), Joel Griffiths (Neuchatel Xamax, Switzerland), Zeljko Kalac (AC Milan, Italy), Harry Kewell (Liverpool), Stan Lazaridis (Birmingham City), Ljubo Milicevic (FC Thun, Switzerland), Lucas Neill (Blackburn Rovers), Tony Popovic (Crystal Palace), Mark Schwarzer (Middlesbrough), Josip Skoko (Wigan Athletic), Archie Thompson (Melbourne Victory, Australia), Michael Thwaite (National Bucharest, Romania), Tony Vidmar (NAC Breda, Holland), Mark Viduka (Middlesbrough), Luke Wilkshire (Bristol City).

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:47:25 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: FA gives Robinson three-match ban

FA gives Robinson three-match ban

Fulham 2-3 West Brom (aet)

The Football Association has handed a three-match ban to West Brom's Paul Robinson after his red card at Fulham.
Robinson was charged with misconduct for using 'abusive and or insulting words to a match official' during Tuesday's 3-2 Carling Cup victory.
The defender has denied the charge and requested a personal hearing.
He will now miss Sunday's Premiership match with Newcastle and the following games with West Ham on 5 November and Everton on 19 November.
Robinson was sent off on Tuesday for kicking out at defender Zat Knight in extra time.
The full-back reacted to a push by Knight which left him sprawling in the advertising signs at Craven Cottage.
Albion initially lodged an appeal with the Football Association earlier but it was withdrawn a couple of hours later.
But the club will give Robinson their full support at the hearing, which is expected to take place on Thursday, 3 November at the FA's Soho Square headquarters.

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:48:05 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: England Women ease to biggest win

England Women ease to biggest win

Smith found the target three times in England's record-breaking win

The England women's team cruised to the biggest win in their history with a 13-0 demolition of Hungary in their World Cup qualifier.
Arsenal striker Kelly Smith hit a hat-trick, while Eni Aluko, Alex Scott and Fara Williams all scored twice.
Rachel Yankey, Jody Handley, Katie Champan and Jo Potter also got themselves on the scoresheet.
The result leaves England top of their five-nation group table following their earlier 4-1 win against Austria.
And national coach Hope Powell said: "The main thing going into this match was guarding against complacency among the players.
"We worked on going for early goals and, when that came off, it was good to see the girls maintaining their standards."
England's next opponents are Holland, who defeated group favourites France 1-0.

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Hungary: Melinda Szvorda; Monika Bango, Adranya Paraoanu, Rita Mery (Cecilia Gaspar 19), Eva Sumegi; Reya Jakab, Anita Szeker, Angela Smuczer (Anita Padar 72), Gabriella Toth; Gyorgyi Sebestyen; Agnes Czuder.
Substitutes: Gabriella Kovesi, Krisztina Kanta, Judit Fenyvesi, Katalin Fogl, Veronika Tazhel.
England: Rachel Brown (Everton) (sub Siobhan Chamberlain (Bristol Academy) 72): Casey Stoney (Charlton), Mary Phillip (Arsenal), Lindsay Johnson (Everton), Rachel Unitt (Everton): Alex Scott (Arsenal), Katie Chapman (Charlton), Fara Williams (Everton), Rachel Yankey (Arsenal) (sub Jo Potter (Charlton Athletic) HT); Kelly Smith (Arsenal); Eniola Aluko (Charlton Athletic) (sub Jody Handley (Everton) 63).
Substitutes: Emily Westwood (Everton) Vicky Exley (Doncaster Rovers Belles), Kelly McDougall (Everton), Sue Smith (Leeds United).
Referee: D. Damkova (Czech Republic).

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:48:37 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: West Brom suffer Kirkland injury

West Brom suffer Kirkland injury

Chris Kirkland's career statistics

West Brom goalkeeper Chris Kirkland will miss their next two games after suffering a heavy knock during Sunday's 2-0 defeat at Bolton Wanderers.
Kirkland bruised one of his kidneys and will now sit out the Premiership games against Newcastle and West Ham.
"It's nothing serious but Chris has been advised to rest between two and four weeks," said boss Bryan Robson.
Robson has duly recalled keeper Russell Hoult from his loan spell with League One outfit Nottingham Forest.
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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:49:43 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Friday's gossip column

Friday's gossip column

All the latest football gossip from the day's papers. Thursday's gossip

Portsmouth's Andy O'Brien is likely to miss the game with Sunderland due to a knee injury (Times).
Wolves have failed in a bid to take Carlton Cole on loan from Chelsea (Sun).
Les Ferdinand is being tipped to join Kettering after Paul Gascoigne took over as manager (Guardian).
Portsmouth chairman Milan Mandaric says he has ended any differences he had with former boss Harry Redknapp, but there is no chance he will return to the club while Mandaric is in charge (Express).
A fan has beaten Arsene Wenger to buying the appartment built on the spot of the Highbury dugout when the stadium is converted into flats next season (Star).
Barnet keeper Ross Flitney says he will appeal against the red card he was given after less than two minutes of their Carling Cup tie with Manchester United (Star).
Sunderland's Julio Arca faces a long lay-off after aggravating a toe injury against Newcastle last weekend (Mirror).
Hungarian legend Ferenc Puskas' medals have been sold for £85,000 to pay for his medical bills at a Budapest hospital (Telegraph).
West Ham goalkeeper Roy Carroll says he should be fit for the game at Tottenham on 20 November after damaging knee ligaments in a training ground accident (Mail).
Thierry Henry is rated as only 30% likely to be fit for Arsenal's North London derby with Tottenham on Saturday (Mail).
Hull chairman Adam Pearson insists Paul Anderson will not be joining Liverpool after talks over a possible move broke down over the fee (Independent).
Brighton should find out on Friday if they have been given permission to build a new ground at Falmer (Telegraph).
Reading's Leroy Lita will miss up to six weeks with a shin injury (Sun).

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:50:16 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Baggies recall Hoult from Forest

Baggies recall Hoult from Forest

West Bromwich Albion have recalled keeper Russell Hoult from his loan spell with Nottingham Forest.
The 32-year-old was in the second month of his loan spell and had made eight appearances for Forest, during which time he kept three clean sheets.
However, with Baggies first-choice stopper Chris Kirkland facing up to a month out with a rib injury, Hoult is returning to The Hawthorns.
Paul Gerrard, 32, will resume in goal at the City Ground.

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:50:59 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Brighton awaiting Falmer verdict

Brighton awaiting Falmer verdict

The club submitted its planning application for Falmer in 2001

Brighton chairman Dick Knight says the club could not have done any more to get the go-ahead for their new stadium.
"We've campaigned very hard," he said. "It has been incredibly good-humoured and not in any way confrontational.
"Not only in Brighton, but the whole football community has campaigned to make an impression on John Prescott."
The Deputy Prime Minister will announce the outcome of the long-running inquiry into the proposed new 23,000 all-seater stadium at Falmer by Monday.
Brighton have been without a home since the Goldstone Ground was sold by previous owners in 1997.
They have been playing at the ill-suited Withdean, a 6,500-capacity athletics stadium, since 1999 following a spell groundsharing at Gillingham.
"It has been a national campaign that has shown Brighton need a new stadium," Knight added.
"Brighton cannot compete with other big-name clubs if we do not have this stadium. All we want is a level playing field and we just hope that John Prescott has got the message.
"He'll either tell us on Friday or on Monday. I've waited six and a half years, so I can wait another couple of days."

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Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 06:51:22 +0100 (BST)
From: Sky Blue <madsmcfc@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Bruce quits loan deal at Rovers

Bruce quits loan deal at Rovers

Defender Alex Bruce has cut short his loan move to Tranmere Rovers.
The 21-year-old, who has previously been farmed out to Oldham and Sheffield Wednesday, returns to Birmingham where he has yet to play for the first-team.
Bruce made 12 appearances for the Prenton Park outfit but lost his place to Paul Linwood after he was called back from a loan period at Wrexham.
The right-back's loan spell at Tranmere, which began in July, was scheduled to run until 22 January 2006.

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Date: 28 Oct 2005 07:42:15 -0000
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Subject: Trivia League, 10/28/2005, 8:00 am

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[chelseafc.or.id] Digest Number 636

2005-10-28T00:52:00.000-07:00

There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Chelsea vs Charlton, jadi ???
From: "Roy Shaelendra" <roy_irman@csmcom.com>
2. Re: Chelsea vs Charlton, jadi ???
From: "mokhan14" <mokhan14@yahoo.com.sg>
3. Re: Curhatnya Bung Lesmana..
From: Deddy Novrandianto <novrand@gmail.com>
4. Mourinho Khawatir Skuadnya Kelelahan
From: "Titisari Lesanpura" <titis@biangbola.com>
5. Re: salam kenal jg
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
6. Re: Curhatnya Bung Lesmana..
From: Rahadian Sidarta <lovei4n@yahoo.com>
7. Terry: We're Up For A Battle
From: "ukieardianto" <ukieardianto@yahoo.com>
8. Hughes: We don't fear Blues
From: "ukieardianto" <ukieardianto@yahoo.com>
9. Re: salam kenal
From: Ardi <french_on_net@yahoo.com>
10. Bridge Reveals Extent Of Break
From: "ukieardianto" <ukieardianto@yahoo.com>
11. Issue SepakBola Jumat
From: "Ari Muladi" <arim@lemigas.esdm.go.id>
12. O'Shea Wants Focus On Boro Game
From: "ukieardianto" <ukieardianto@yahoo.com>
13. Blues Ready For Rough Encounter
From: "ukieardianto" <ukieardianto@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:34:23 +0700
From: "Roy Shaelendra" <roy_irman@csmcom.com>
Subject: Re: Chelsea vs Charlton, jadi ???

emang bener chelsea is the club to see these days...tapi jgn lupa mourinho juga bilang ada saatnya chelsea berhenti belanja dan mengandalkan pemain2 muda dari akademi. ga ada salahnya mumpung lagi ada duit jor2an beli pemain...tapi mungkin lebih baik kalo uangnya buat bikin stadion yg gede kaya ashton grove nya arsenal. chelsea punya JT yg dididik dari akademi yg bahkan skrg jadi club captain. tapi cuma JT aja yg melambung...yg lain kaya jody morris ilang ga jelas. impian gw chelsea punya bibit junior yg hebat kaya class of 92 nya united. beckham, giggs, scholes, neville brothers, butt semua produk asli united yg berkembang jadi pemain2 hebat. gw ngarep Frank Arnesen lebih merhatiin bakat2 muda di akademi krn dia adalah seorang talent scout yg hebat. gw pengen Chelsea tetap berjaya even setelah era Abramovich & Mourinho...nobody is bigger than the club...fools bisa juara CL setelah ga ada owen...united juara cl setelah ga ada cantona. so Chelsea juga hrs bisa. 10 yrs from now...chelsea tetep hrs jadi klub top...jgn kaya notingham forest yg pernah juara eropa...tapi sekarang hrs maen tarkam di divisi 2.

cheers

roy
----- Original Message -----
From: Lesmana Suhendi
To: Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: [chelseafc.or.id] Chelsea vs Charlton, jadi ???

Sedikit curhat ah, boleh yang bung mod.

Lucu juga yah, dulu sebelum jamannya Roman empire dimulai target Chelsea hanya sekedar masuk zona eropa tapi sekarang gileeeee Sapu bersih.
gue inget banget waktu sebelum jamannya RA gue selalu yakin bahwa Chelsea akan mampu bersaing dengan Arsenal,MU dan Liverpool tapi didalam hati kecil gue sadar kalau itu cuma harapan doang apa alagi kalau ngeliat squad team lain.
Rasanya terkadang kaya engga percaya deh kalau Chelsea sekarang ini adalah Chelsea yang gue dulu dukung, udah engga ada lagi Ken Bates yang suka komentar pedas sama wartawan udah engga ada lagi pemain yang ngancam pindah karena kontraknya atau gajinya kurang gede, udah engga ada lagi pemain buangan (hampir pensiun) yang didatengin.
Tapi yang pasti Chelsea sekarang ini Luar biasaaa dan engga percuma penantian selama ini.

Debt Free
We gonna buy everyone we see
we don't give a f**k of transfer fee
cause we are the wealthy CFC

Keep the blue Flag Flying High

Lesmana

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From: Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of AGA EN3RGY
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:03 PM
To: Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [chelseafc.or.id] Chelsea vs Charlton, jadi ???

yapp..
memang gak mudah...
untuk sapu bersih..

gpp..kalo tahun lalu kita double premiership..sama carling..
mudah2an tahun ini..bisa, premiership sama Champions league..
Sediih..siih memang..
ini warning..buat..semua, tim 2 lain akan mengerahkan segenap kekuatan mereka untuk menahan laju the blues..
mudah2an tidak menjadi beban buat terry dkk..

at least... Terry udah mulai bikin gol lagi..

r g d s..

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:48:16 -0000
From: "mokhan14" <mokhan14@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: Chelsea vs Charlton, jadi ???

ya bung lesmana
ini curhatan hampir semua orang ketika mencintai chelsea sebelum jadi
apa2 :D

Salam
Mokhan

--- In Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com, "Lesmana Suhendi"

<lesmana.suhendi@f...> wrote:
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> Sedikit curhat ah, boleh yang bung mod.
>
> Lucu juga yah, dulu sebelum jamannya Roman empire dimulai target
Chelsea hanya sekedar masuk zona eropa tapi sekarang gileeeee Sapu
bersih.
> gue inget banget waktu sebelum jamannya RA gue selalu yakin bahwa
Chelsea akan mampu bersaing dengan Arsenal,MU dan Liverpool tapi
didalam hati kecil gue sadar kalau itu cuma harapan doang apa alagi
kalau ngeliat squad team lain.
> Rasanya terkadang kaya engga percaya deh kalau Chelsea sekarang ini
adalah Chelsea yang gue dulu dukung, udah engga ada lagi Ken Bates
yang suka komentar pedas sama wartawan udah engga ada lagi pemain
yang ngancam pindah karena kontraknya atau gajinya kurang gede, udah
engga ada lagi pemain buangan (hampir pensiun) yang didatengin.
> Tapi yang pasti Chelsea sekarang ini Luar biasaaa dan engga percuma
penantian selama ini.
>
> Debt Free
> We gonna buy everyone we see
> we don't give a f**k of transfer fee
> cause we are the wealthy CFC
>
> Keep the blue Flag Flying High
>
> Lesmana
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Chelsea-
Indonesia@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of AGA EN3RGY
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:03 PM
> To: Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [chelseafc.or.id] Chelsea vs Charlton, jadi ???
>
>
> yapp..
> memang gak mudah...
> untuk sapu bersih..
>
> gpp..kalo tahun lalu kita double premiership..sama carling..
> mudah2an tahun ini..bisa, premiership sama Champions league..
> Sediih..siih memang..
> ini warning..buat..semua, tim 2 lain akan mengerahkan segenap
kekuatan mereka untuk menahan laju the blues..
> mudah2an tidak menjadi beban buat terry dkk..
>
> at least... Terry udah mulai bikin gol lagi..
>
> r g d s..
>

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:26:13 +0700
From: Deddy Novrandianto <novrand@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Curhatnya Bung Lesmana..

Ha ha ha, kalau teringat jaman dulu. Kita sering diam diam saja. Tidak
banyak komentar. Dulu sempat berani komentar sebentar saat membantai Man utd
atau Arsenal ya ? ( udah lupa ). 4 - 0, sepertinya di ajang piala FA.
Lumayan buat hiburan. Setelah itu kebanyakan diam saja.
Baru belakangan era Zola hampir top scorer, mulai ramai kembali
berkomentar. Meskipun komentarnya siapa dulu top scorernya. Dan akhirnya
secara dramatis, di akhir kompetisi dapat mengalahkan liverpool dan lolos ke
Liga Champions.
Setelah itu era Abramovich dimulai. Sudah mulai lebih pede untuk tampil ke
permukaan. he he he.
Jadi inget sama teman saya, dulu waktu kuliah. Nonton pertandingan chelsea
di kamar sendirian. Suaranya tv dikecilin. Begitu unggul duluan, berani
keluar kamar. Sudah berapa nih skornya dan siapa yang menang. Tapi begitu
mulai ketinggalan lagi. Kembali lagi masuk ke kamar.
Ayo ceritakan kisah - kisahnya. :D

On 10/27/05, AGA EN3RGY <amerta_nugraha@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Tambahan..
> Gue msh inget..tuh..dihina-hina ama temen2 gue yang rata2 fans-nya [3 klub
> itulah]..
> kalo..The Blues kalah, bursa transfer dibuka... trus cuma dapet Enrique de
> Lucas, free transfer dari Espanyol..sementara yang lain jor-joran..beli
> pemain...
> Weah maen stengah musim di chelsea aja dulu udh seneng bgt...
> msh inget nama2 ini? hehe.. Dan Petrescu, Bryan Laudrup, Di Matteo, Dennis
> Wise, Frank Lebouf, Mark Hughes, Le Saux, Vialli, Panucci, Ferrer, Petit,
> Deschamps, Casiraghi [walau langsung cedera sampe gantung sepatu], Jody
> Morris [anak bandel], Desailly, Gullit, Flo, Dll.. n tentunya..
> The Legendary Gianfranco Zola..
> sebenernya dari dulu udah bertabur bintang...[mantan]
> Dreaming of Champions League tittle..
> rgds
>
>
>

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:41:50 +0700 (WIT)
From: "Titisari Lesanpura" <titis@biangbola.com>
Subject: Mourinho Khawatir Skuadnya Kelelahan

Pelatih Chelsea Jose Mourinho mengaku khawatir para pemainnya mengalami
kelelahan tinggi jelang melawan Blackburn Rovers di Liga Premier hari
Sabtu (29/10). Maklum, Chelsea harus bertanding selama lebih dari 120
menit saat disingkirkan Charlton Athletic melalui adu penalti di ajang
Piala Carling kemarin (26/10).

Situasi untuk melawan Blackburn memang kurang kondusif karena sekalin
timnya kelelahan, lawannya memiliki masa pemulihan yang lebih panjang
karena lebih dulu melawan Leeds United di ajang yang sama hari Selasa.

"Siapapun yang tampil selama dua jam pasti mengalami kelelahan.
Sebagian pemain saya tampil selama 85 menit dan lainnya selama satu jam
dan mereka berlari terus," kata Mourinho.

"Ketika pertandingan dilanjutkan pada babak tambahan, pertandingan
sudah rusak dan banyak ruang terbuka. Itu artinya anda harus lari lebih
banyak. Hari Sabtu, beberapa pemain akan berada dalam situasi sulit.
Blackburn punya waktu tambahan sehari dan mereka hanya bermain 90 menit,"
lanjutnya.

The Blues untuk pertama kalinya di musim ini mengalami kekalahan dan
yang pertama di kandangnya dari serangkaian pertandingan. Namun Mourinho
tetap menganggap timnya tak pantas kalah dan hanya menilai kurang
beruntung.

"Sebenarnya kami bisa menang di masa 90 menit, di babak tambahan, dan
juga penalti. Tetapi dari empat kompetisi yang kami ikuti, Piala Carling
bisa dibilang kurang penting. Namun bukan karena itu kami kalah. Kami
menghargai kompetisi ini dan kami pun menjuarainya musim lalu.

"Kami juga tak kalah. Gola mereka hanya karena kesalahan besar, namun
Robert Huth adalah pemain yang sangat baik dan saya percaya kepadanya.
Dia akan belajar dari kesalahan," pungkas Mourinho mengenai Huth yang
menjadi "biang" kekalahan karena kesalahannya di babak pertama dan
kegagalan mengeksekusi penalti.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:31:41 -0000
From: "Agoeng" <santosa24@yahoo.com.sg>
Subject: Re: salam kenal jg

Hi Irwan, salam kenal kembali, semoga bisa enjoy di komunitas ini dan
mudah2an dapat bergabung di kegiatan CISC nanti.

Boleh juga usulnya, untuk Nonbar memang kita cari tempat yg
representative dan mudah terjangkau, jadi kalau di daerah GM, MTA atau
pluit ada tempat yang bisa di rekomendasi , kenapa tidak? nanti tinggal
di olah TKP ama yg ngurusin masalah NonBar sama Bung Fey Kezman'

Untuk saat ini Gillians masih jadi tempat alternative nonbar karena
berada di pusat kota.

salam,

--- In Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com, Irwan <Irwan@c...> wrote:
>
> Ceritanya jg mungkin ga jauh beda ama Ardi, akhirnya gw bisa nimbrung
di Komunitas Chelsea mania, cm bedanya gw dah jd Member per tanggal 12
Okt 05, yg pasti gw happy bs ikut gabung walaupun gw blm bisa ikut
kegiatan yg diadain ama rekan2, harapan gw, gw bisa diterima disini
dan gw bisa ikut dalam kegiatan2nya, oh yah kalo boleh usul, skali2
kegiatan seperti nonbar atau yg lainnya di adakan di dkt daerah gw
Sekitar daerah kota gitu ( Gajah mada, Taman Anggrek, Mall Pluit yah
kisaran itu deh...) salam kenal khusus untuk Mas Agung selaku President
Chelsea Indonesia Suporter Club, Tengkiu dan piss jg............

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:20:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rahadian Sidarta <lovei4n@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Curhatnya Bung Lesmana..

Mank kalau inget jaman sebelum RA sedih gitu lach(Tapi
hati gw tetep Biru)......

Wach kalo nonton baren temen2.....gw sendiri lawan 5
orang(VS MU, Arsenal, Liverpool).....

But sama seperti yang lain..gw yakin Chelsea pasti
jaya......

and waktunya tiba....

mereka yang tidak suka chelsea sekarang cuman ngirihhh
dooankkk alias siriikk....

Bravoo Chelsea and Terus maju CISC..

Keep The Blue Fling High....

--- Deddy Novrandianto <novrand@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ha ha ha, kalau teringat jaman dulu. Kita sering
> diam diam saja. Tidak
> banyak komentar. Dulu sempat berani komentar
> sebentar saat membantai Man utd
> atau Arsenal ya ? ( udah lupa ). 4 - 0, sepertinya
> di ajang piala FA.
> Lumayan buat hiburan. Setelah itu kebanyakan diam
> saja.
> Baru belakangan era Zola hampir top scorer, mulai
> ramai kembali
> berkomentar. Meskipun komentarnya siapa dulu top
> scorernya. Dan akhirnya
> secara dramatis, di akhir kompetisi dapat
> mengalahkan liverpool dan lolos ke
> Liga Champions.
> Setelah itu era Abramovich dimulai. Sudah mulai
> lebih pede untuk tampil ke
> permukaan. he he he.
> Jadi inget sama teman saya, dulu waktu kuliah.
> Nonton pertandingan chelsea
> di kamar sendirian. Suaranya tv dikecilin. Begitu
> unggul duluan, berani
> keluar kamar. Sudah berapa nih skornya dan siapa
> yang menang. Tapi begitu
> mulai ketinggalan lagi. Kembali lagi masuk ke kamar.
> Ayo ceritakan kisah - kisahnya. :D
>
>
> On 10/27/05, AGA EN3RGY <amerta_nugraha@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Tambahan..
> > Gue msh inget..tuh..dihina-hina ama temen2 gue
> yang rata2 fans-nya [3 klub
> > itulah]..
> > kalo..The Blues kalah, bursa transfer dibuka...
> trus cuma dapet Enrique de
> > Lucas, free transfer dari Espanyol..sementara yang
> lain jor-joran..beli
> > pemain...
> > Weah maen stengah musim di chelsea aja dulu udh
> seneng bgt...
> > msh inget nama2 ini? hehe.. Dan Petrescu, Bryan
> Laudrup, Di Matteo, Dennis
> > Wise, Frank Lebouf, Mark Hughes, Le Saux, Vialli,
> Panucci, Ferrer, Petit,
> > Deschamps, Casiraghi [walau langsung cedera sampe
> gantung sepatu], Jody
> > Morris [anak bandel], Desailly, Gullit, Flo, Dll..
> n tentunya..
> > The Legendary Gianfranco Zola..
> > sebenernya dari dulu udah bertabur
> bintang...[mantan]
> > Dreaming of Champions League tittle..
> > rgds
> >
> >
> >
>

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:52:09 -0000
From: "ukieardianto" <ukieardianto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Terry: We're Up For A Battle

Chelsea skipper John Terry has warned the rest of the Barclays
Premiership that bullying tactics will not stop them.

Terry hit back at claims by Everton's James Beattie that Chelsea could
be muscled out of their stride following their 1-1 draw at Goodison
Park on Sunday.

Beattie scored from the penalty spot and left Terry nursing a smashed
nose after a collision with the Everton striker.

Charlton then sent Carling Cup holders Chelsea crashing out of the
competition with a 5-4 win on penalties after the two sides had drawn
1-1 after extra-time.

The two games have given the rest of the Premiership hope that Jose
Mourinho's all-conquering side can be stopped.

But Terry, who scored his first goal of the season to put Chelsea 1-0
against Charlton on Wednesday night, was furious about Beattie's claim
they were not interested in meeting the challenge of a purely physical
encounter.

"I read that Beattie said they had worked us out and by battling
against us, getting amongst us, they were able to equal us an get a
result.

"Let me make it quite clear that apart from the penalty - and they
were lucky to get it because they weren't threatening - they didn't
create a chance.

"We had a lot of chances we might have put away. If Beattie or anyone
else thinks that by coming and battling and trying to bully us they
can get anywhere, the message is clear: 'We're up for it!'

"We can take anyone on in a physical battle and we'll win and then
we'll get the ball down and play football and we'll win that as well."

Sportinglife.com

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:53:16 -0000
From: "ukieardianto" <ukieardianto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Hughes: We don't fear Blues

Mark Hughes admits weekend opponents Chelsea are "an exceptional side"
but claims in-form Blackburn "don't fear anyone at the moment".

Hughes takes his Rovers troops to Stamford Bridge on Saturday and
faces the dilemma of whether to recall Craig Bellamy to his starting
line-up or stick with Shefki Kuqi, whose muscular frame is more akin
to that of James Beattie and Duncan Ferguson, who caused Jose
Mourinho's men so many problems on Sunday.

Rovers are entitled to approach the capital trip in confident mood,
having arrested a poor start to the season by winning five of their
last six games.

Their only recent setback came at Liverpool, when Zurab Khizanishvili
was unjustly sent off, and memories of the win at Manchester United
should ensure Blackburn do not suffer any inferiority complex against
the champions.

"We are on a decent run and we want to keep it going," said Hughes.
"Chelsea are an exceptional side but we don't fear anyone at the moment.

"We feel we can win every game we take part in just now and while
there are bound to be occasions when we need to be strong and solid,
we are capable of being that and I am really looking forward to it."

Teamtalk.com

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ardi <french_on_net@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: salam kenal

wah..wah...wah terima kasih...terima kasih atas penerimaannya.....

Begini ceritanya...

gue suka ama chelsea belum lama juga...gue lupa kapannya tapi kira2 tahun 2000-an deh...
suka karena dari dulu chelsea bermain beda dari tim2 inggris yg laen..pokoknya top deh..
dan pemain idolanya siapa lagi selain Gianfranco Zola...

mengenai diri: gue tinggal di daerah Pondok Gede lebih tepatnya JatiCempaka (aka. Jatiwaringin) dan gawe di daerah Klender...

*Anak baru boleh nggak minta copy FM2006?

wassalam,

Piss...

mokhan14 <mokhan14@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
wah langsung ditodong gini bung ardi hehehe
salam kenal juga bung dan sering main2 ke STC dan kalo ada waktu bisa
sering ngumpul2 di acara2 kita

salam kenal :)
Mokhan

--- In Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com, "Ari Muladi" <arim@l...>
wrote:
>
> Welcome aboard ... Selamat bergabung Bung Ardi
>
> Mungkin bisa introduce dikit ke teman-teman, missal tinggal dimana,
> pemain idola siapa, knp suka Chelsea dsb.
>
>
>
> Salam the blues
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Chelsea-Indonesia@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ardi
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:55 PM
> To: chelsea-indonesia@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [chelseafc.or.id] salam kenal
>
>
>
> salam kenal buat semua,
>
>
>
> Akhirnya bisa juga gue gabung disini, udah lama gue suka ama
> Chelsea..(the world #1 team)
>
>
>
> Gue belom jadi anggota chelsea indonesia supp club, tapi nanti dalam
> waktu dekat ini gue pasti akan ke STC lagi buat daptar ama nyari
kaos
> Chelsea..terakhir kesana gue belom daptar dan cuma beli kaos Timnas
> Inggris...
>
>
>
> Gue harap gue bisa diterima di komunitas kalian (yg menurut gue
tempat
> yang menyenangkan)...dan bisa ikut2 kegiatan kalian...
>
>
>
>
>
> Piss...
>
>
>
>
>
> me,
>
>
>
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Topics in this digest:

1. Re: FAO Deano
From: "Dean Lewin" <dean@lewin182.fsnet.co.uk>
2. Re: Prediction Challenge fixtures for 29-30 Oct 2005
From: "Jari Salo" <jari.salo76@pp.inet.fi>
3. Re: Re: Benitez backs humiliated players
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
4. Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
5. Re: Man Utd 4-1 Barnet
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
6. Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
7. Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
8. Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
9. Re: Shearer
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
10. Re: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
11. Re: Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
12. Re Shearer
From: "Steve H 100% Fox" <thurmastonfox70@yahoo.co.uk>
13. Foxes on fire ?
From: "Steve H 100% Fox" <thurmastonfox70@yahoo.co.uk>
14. Re: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: "Brad & Steph" <coma-divine@cinci.rr.com>
15. Re: Megson lets fans make their point
From: "Brad & Steph" <coma-divine@cinci.rr.com>
16. Re: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
17. Trivia League
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
18. Re: Re Shearer
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
19. Mads Predictions League, 10/28/2005, 12:00 am
From: EnglishFootball
20. Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
21. Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
22. Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
23. Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
24. Re: Grimsby 0-1 Newcastle
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
25. Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:37:28 +0100
From: "Dean Lewin" <dean@lewin182.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: FAO Deano

Try this link Bob :-

http://www.nottinghamforest.premiumtv.co.uk/page/TicketOffice/0,,10308,00.html

Deano.

Come and join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/championfootballtipsters/
to participate in a prediction competition on a league and cup basis. Come and
join us, and let's see how good you really are !!
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From: tiger_bob85
To: EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: [EnglishFootball] FAO Deano

Deano,

What is the crack with tickets for Forest vs Weymouth on 5th November??
I am free that weekend, and fancied Forest as it is only 30 mins on the
train from Brum. I cant seem to find details on their website anywhere,
and I wouldn't mind adding the City Ground to the list of grounds I
have visited.

Bob

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0300
From: "Jari Salo" <jari.salo76@pp.inet.fi>
Subject: Re: Prediction Challenge fixtures for 29-30 Oct 2005

Birmingham v Everton 1-1
Charlton v Bolton 2-1
Chelsea v Blackburn 1-0
Liverpool v West Ham 1-1
Middlesbrough v Man Utd 2-1
Sunderland v Portsmouth 1-1
Tottenham v Arsenal 1-0
Wigan v Fulham 2-0
Reading v Leeds 3-1
West Brom v Newcastle 1-1

Jari

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:19:31 +0100
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Benitez backs humiliated players

I think it may be because we are the European Champions, that we
shouldn't be losing to teams in a lower league..............but this is
the Cup and we all know what happens!!!!

Phil wrote:

> --- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Dominic Churchill <dom@h...>
> wrote:
>
> " Hang on????!!!!! Weren't we playing a team that were in the
> Premiership last season??? How is losing to them, at their ground,
> humiliating???? On their day, like they showed last season, Palace
> are good enough to give most teams a run for their
> money...................what gives??? Did the media say that Spurs'
> loss to Grimsby was "humiliating"???.....NO!!!!!!!!"
>
>
>
> *Ive also been surprised at how they have treated this defeat. Gerard
> is apologising to the fans and they are making it sound like they have
> been thrashed by Accrington Stanley!!
> *
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:22:24 +0100
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton

This was a surprise, not a humiliating shock though!!!!

He could say that the Chelsea player that missed the vital spot kick,
"huthed" it over the Bar!!!

Maddie wrote:

> Chelsea 1-1 Charlton
> (After extra time, Charlton win 5-4 on penalties)
>
>
> Charlton celebrate Bryan Hughes' (centre) winning penalty
> More Carling Cup photos
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/photo_galleries/4380064.stm>
> Chelsea & Charlton reaction
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4380010.stm>
>
> *Charlton caused a major surprise by dumping holders Chelsea out of
> the Carling Cup in a penalty shootout.*
>
> Bryan Hughes hit the winning spot-kick for the Addicks after Robert
> Huth had missed for the Premiership leaders.
>
> John Terry had put Chelsea ahead in the first half with a header from
> an Arjen Robben corner, before Darren Bent levelled after a Huth mistake.
>
> Frank Lampard went close with a drive and Jay Bothroyd forced Carlo
> Cuducini to save before penalties settled it.
>
> Chelsea started the brighter of the teams and Paulo Ferreira forced
> Stephan Andersen to palm away before Hernan Crespo headed wastefully
> wide.
>
> Darren Ambrose and Dennis Rommedahl lashed shots over the Chelsea bar
> as the visitors threatened but it was the home side who went ahead
> through Terry.
>
> Just four minutes later, though, Huth failed to get sufficient contact
> on a header back to Carlo Cudicini and Bent took advantage to steal in
> and grab an unlikely equaliser.
>
> Chelsea came out in dominant fashion after the interval and Terry was
> a fraction away from grabbing his second, a left-foot volley arching
> narrowly wide.
>
> Soon after, Shaun Wright-Phillips drilled off target before Andersen
> pulled off a magnificent save to deny Eidur Gudjohnsen.
>
> It was ebb and flow as Charlton came back strongly, substitute
> Bothroyd seeing a stinging shot palmed away by Cudicini for a corner.
>
> Lampard was also introduced as a second-half replacement and he went
> close with two trademark long-range drives - one flying over and the
> other ending up in Andersen's arms.
>
> But no one could muster a winner and penalties settled it, with Huth's
> effort saved by Andersen and everyone else scoring.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Chelsea:* Cudicini, Paulo Ferreira, Terry, Huth, Bridge (Lampard 60),
> Wright-Phillips (Joe Cole 60), Essien, Geremi, Robben, Gudjohnsen,
> Crespo (Drogba 83).
> Subs Not Used: Cech, Diarra.
>
> *Booked:* Essien, Geremi, Terry.
>
> *Goals:* Terry 41.
>
> *Charlton:* Andersen, Young, Hreidarsson, El Karkouri, Powell,
> Rommedahl (Thomas 64), Ambrose (Bothroyd 73), Murphy (Kishishev 82),
> Holland, Hughes, Bent.
> Subs Not Used: Kiely, Spector.
>
> *Booked:* Hughes.
>
> *Goals:* Bent 45.
>
> *Charlton win 5-4 on penalties.*
>
> *Att:* 42,198.
>
> *Ref:* A Wiley (Staffordshire).
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:03:40 +0100
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Man Utd 4-1 Barnet

I would have to agree with both Managers here. To send off a player,
who may not play in a game like this for the rest of his career, is a
bit harsh.

Well at least we scored a goal....with 10 men.......

Maddie wrote:

> Man Utd 4-1 Barnet
>
> Nicky Bailey tries to tackle Giuseppe Rossi
> More Carling Cup photos
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/photo_galleries/4380064.stm>
>
> *Manchester United comfortably overcame Barnet, whose task was made
> impossible when keeper Ross Flitney was sent off after two minutes for
> handball.*
>
> Liam Miller capitalised immediately, beating substitute keeper Scott
> Tynan from the resulting free-kick.
>
> Kieran Richardson added a second on 19 minutes but Barnet then
> resisted until 51 minutes when Guiseppe Rossi struck.
>
> Dean Sinclair got one back for Barnet, scoring from 12 yards, but
> United added a fourth through Sylvain Ebanks-Blake.
>
> Barnet's night took just 100 seconds to go horribly wrong.
>
> Flitney had advanced a few yards out of his area when he plucked a
> routine pass forward out of the air a yard before the ball had gone
> back into the area.
>
> Referee Richard Beeby duly sent Flitney off - and the game was over as
> a contest.
>
> The 43,673 crowd - the lowest at Old Trafford for six years - voiced
> their disapproval to no avail.
>
> Striker Louis Soares was sacrificed without even kicking the ball as
> he made way for replacement keeper Tynan to come on.
>
> And once Miller curled the free-kick into the top corner, the writing
> was on the wall for Barnet.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson on Flitney's red card:*
> "Surely we need some common sense.
>
> "Everyone was stunned by it. It shattered a young boy's dream."
>
> # *Barnet boss Paul Fairclough:*
> "The decision was cruel and ruined two players' nights.
>
> "Ross was distraught and we had to take off young Louis who, like us
> all, had been looking forward to this ever since the draw was made."
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Man Utd:* Howard, Bardsley, Brown, Pique, Eckersley, Martin (Gibson
> 75), Miller, Jones, Richardson, Ebanks-Blake, Rossi.
> Subs Not Used: Park, Smith, Silvestre, Steele.
>
> *Booked:* Miller, Jones, Eckersley.
>
> *Goals:* Miller 4, Richardson 19, Rossi 51, Ebanks-Blake 89.
>
> *Barnet:* Flitney, Hendon, Yakubu, King, Gross, Soares (Tynan 3), Lee
> (Batt 87), Sinclair, Bailey, Strevens, Grazioli (Hatch 75).
> Subs Not Used: Charles, Graham.
>
> *Sent Off: *Flitney (2).
>
> *Booked:* Yakubu.
>
> *Goals:* Sinclair 74.
>
> *Att:* 43,673
>
> *Ref:* R Beeby (Northamptonshire).
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:04:47 +0100
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

And The Toffees goal drought continues...................

Maddie wrote:

> Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
>
> Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink in action for Middlesbrough
> More photos from the Carling Cup
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/photo_galleries/4380064.stm>
>
> *Middlesbrough poured more misery on struggling Everton, knocking them
> out of the Carling Cup in the third round.*
>
> A series of fine saves from Nigel Martyn denied Mark Viduka and James
> Morrison as Boro pressed forward.
>
> But Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink made Boro's pressure count when he latched
> onto Viduka's through-ball from 10 yards.
>
> James Beattie nearly equalised with an acute shot but neither he, or
> debutant Andy van der Meyde, could break down the 2004 winners who
> held on.
>
> Teenage midfielder Morrison was at the thick of things for
> Middlesbrough right from the whistle.
>
> The 19-year-old forced Martyn to save at his feet before sending
> another effort from the edge of the box just wide.
>
> Spanish midfielder Mikel Arteta was equally influential for Everton
> and was unlucky to see his six-yard shot blocked.
>
> But as the pulsating half continued, it was Middlesbrough who
> eventually began to gain the upper hand.
>
> Martyn kept Boro at bay, impressively saving shots from both Emanuel
> Pogatetz and Viduka.
>
>
> */We gave them too many chances/*
> From B
> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb606/F2241567?thread=1294109>
> /Have your say on 606/
> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb606/F2241567?thread=1294109>
>
> The veteran keeper was eventually caught out by Hasselbaink's low shot
> through his legs seven minutes before half-time.
>
> James Beattie almost grabbed a quick equaliser after the restart, his
> angled strike forcing Mark Schwarzer to make a tricky save.
>
> Just after the hour, Van der Meyde was handed his first start for the
> club in place of James McFadden and he produced some excellent curling
> crosses into the box.
>
> But it was Steve McLaren's side who continued to pose problems for
> Everton's slow-footed defence on the counter-attack.
>
> Hasselbaink saw his stinging shot hit the bar before clipping another
> shot narrowly wide.
>
> In the dying minutes of the match, Arteta was denied at the other end
> when his 20-yard free-kick smashed the cross bar.
>
> It was just not Everton's night - and Middlesborough marched into the
> last 16.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> # *Middlesbrough boss Steve McClaren:*
> "I asked them for character after what happened on Sunday at West Ham,
> and that's what I got.
>
> "Our attitude was spot on and were determined. We broke well, made
> loads of chances and dominated in midfield.
>
> "We have learned to defend well to keep leads, like we did last week
> in Europe against Grasshoppers."
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> # *Everton boss David Moyes:*
> "We are very disappointed not to have gone through, and that we didn't
> get a better result.
>
> "We were disappointed we didn't make more of the crosses. We got a lot
> into the box but Boro defended well.
>
> "We didn't get on the end of enough of our opportunities. We improved
> after the break but we couldn't get that elusive goal."
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Everton: *Martyn, Hibbert, Yobo, Weir, Ferrari (Bent 41), Arteta,
> Neville, Davies (Osman 78), Kilbane, McFadden (Van der Meyde 62), Beattie.
> Subs Not Used: Wright, Kroldrup.
>
> *Middlesbrough: *Schwarzer, Queudrue, Riggott, Ehiogu (Bates 45),
> Parnaby, Rochemback, Morrison, Pogatetz, Doriva, Hasselbaink (Nemeth
> 67), Viduka (Yakubu 78).
> Subs Not Used: Jones, Kennedy.
>
> *Booked:* Rochemback, Viduka.
>
> *Goals:* Hasselbaink 38.
>
> *Att:* 25,844
>
> *Ref:* P Walton (Northamptonshire).
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:38:51 -0000
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Dominic Churchill <dom@h...> wrote:

" This was a surprise, not a humiliating shock though!!!! He could say that the Chelsea player that missed the vital spot kick, "huthed" it over the Bar!!! "

This isnt a big shock for me, because Charlton are doing very well at the moment, especially away from home.

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:37:14 -0000
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Dominic Churchill <dom@h...> wrote:

" And The Toffees goal drought continues.................. "

Thigs are getting a bit sticky for the toffees arent they!! :D

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:42:22 -0000
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Shearer

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Samuel Arthur wrote:">sammyboo21uk@y...> wrote:

" Watching the game on Sky, Shearer got a right old whack from the Grimsby defender. I know he may have dished it out in the past but there's no reason for this kind of behaviour whatsoever. For the referee to take no action either is another mystery to me-players get sent of regularly in the Premiership for a whole lot less. "

Of course it doesnt make it right for other players to do it, but Shearer himself has been doing similar to defenders for years now. Him and Owen have been two of the biggest cheats to ever play in the premiership, so they are well suited as a partnership.

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:02:42 +0100
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

Yes you could say that Buddy......hahaha...............

Phil wrote:

> --- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Dominic Churchill <dom@h...>
> wrote:
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> " And The Toffees goal drought continues.................. "
>
>
>
> *Thigs are getting a bit sticky for the toffees arent they!!
> *
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 18:05:46 +0100
From: Dominic Churchill <dom@harleyworld.eclipse.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton

Granted.....but as good as Charlton are away from home at the moment,
Chelsea look like they won't lose to anyone...............

Phil wrote:

> --- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Dominic Churchill <dom@h...>
> wrote:
>
> " This was a surprise, not a humiliating shock though!!!! He could
> say that the Chelsea player that missed the vital spot kick, "huthed"
> it over the Bar!!! "
>
>
>
> *This isnt a big shock for me, because Charlton are doing very well at
> the moment, especially away from home.*
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:34:37 -0000
From: "Steve H 100% Fox" <thurmastonfox70@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re Shearer

What a damn shame him getting a bash at Grimsby ! What goes around and
he HAS put it around always comes around . Small price to pay for the
kick to Lennon ' head at Filbert Street some years back .

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 20:36:43 -0000
From: "Steve H 100% Fox" <thurmastonfox70@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Foxes on fire ?

Three wins in four have ignited the Leicester flames somewhat . A great
win over Coventry , followed by progression to the last 16 in the
League Cup . Top stuff ! It might not be the number one cup in this
country but i can name a few teams dissappointed to be out of it !

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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:23:01 -0400
From: "Brad & Steph" <coma-divine@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

Good. They've loafed their way through the Prem far too long. Now if only Portsmouth and Newcastle could join them.

Brad
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil
To: EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: [EnglishFootball] Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Dominic Churchill <dom@h...> wrote:

" And The Toffees goal drought continues.................. "

Thigs are getting a bit sticky for the toffees arent they!!

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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:25:02 -0400
From: "Brad & Steph" <coma-divine@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Megson lets fans make their point

I would've loved to have been there to hear this. Seems a dream scenario for all of us frustrated fans! Kudos to Megson. Now if only he'd get fired so that Leeds could hire him....

Brad
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Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:40 AM
Subject: [EnglishFootball] Megson lets fans make their point

Megson lets fans make their point

Boss Megson gets tough on Forest
Manager Gary Megson invited two fans into the dressing room to voice their frustrations after Nottingham Forest's dismal 3-0 defeat by Yeovil.
John Enever and Andrew Peel approached Megson and he allowed them to let off some steam after the match.

"We told him it was unacceptable and he said 'I completely agree with you - would you like to tell the players for yourselves?'," Enever told BBC Sport.

"We thought he was calling our bluff, but at the end of the game in we went."

Forest were trailing 2-0 to Yeovil at half-time when Enever and Peel spoke to Megson as he returned to the dugout after the interval.

The pair then followed Megson into the away dressing room and spoke to the players for five minutes.

"He asked us not to make it personal or abusive and we stuck to that. The players were shocked but we tried to keep it constructive," Enever told BBC Sport.

I felt it was important for the players to understand why the fans are getting upset

Nottingham Forest boss Gary Megson

"We said 'the majority of Forest fans genuinely want you and the manager to do well, but that's not going to happen without basic application'.

"Gary Megson phoned me on Monday to thank use for what we'd said. He said he agreed with us 110% and that he would use it as a foundation for the rest of the season."

Forest, European champions in 1979 and 1980, have dropped down the divisions in recent seasons and are currently 11th in League One.

Megson took over last season but was unable to prevent the club's relegation from the Championship.

"I decided to do it because I felt it was important for the players to understand what the supporters are thinking and why they are getting upset," said Megson.

"The supporters didn't rant and rave, they were very eloquent and sensible. The players listened and I didn't disagree with anything they said."

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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:15:48 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

Not forgetting Middlesbore.......horrible team! Yuck!
----- Original Message -----
From: Brad & Steph
To: EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [EnglishFootball] Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

Good. They've loafed their way through the Prem far too long. Now if only Portsmouth and Newcastle could join them.

Brad
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From: Phil
To: EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: [EnglishFootball] Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Dominic Churchill <dom@h...> wrote:

" And The Toffees goal drought continues.................. "

Thigs are getting a bit sticky for the toffees arent they!!

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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:22:05 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Trivia League

23 people played today's Summer Games quiz. It has been won by John with 7 correct answers in 77 seconds! Well done, John!

Today's quiz is now closed. Staying with the sports topic, the subject for tomorrow will be 'Nicknames & Nationalities'. The quiz will start at 6am and the URL is http://www.funtrivia.com/private/main.cfm?tid=11218.

Good luck everyone!

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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:54:09 -0000
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re Shearer

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, "Steve H 100% Fox" thurmastonfox70@y...> wrote:

" What a damn shame him getting a bash at Grimsby ! What goes around and he HAS put it around always comes around . Small price to pay for the kick to Lennon ' head at Filbert Street some years back . "

Id forgot about that, but yes now you mention it he was guilty that time as well. But somehow I dont think him and the Grimsby defender were talking about the skills of Neil Lennon at the full time whistle.

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Message: 19
Date: 27 Oct 2005 22:58:13 -0000
From: EnglishFootball
Subject: Mads Predictions League, 10/28/2005, 12:00 am

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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:56:52 -0000
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, "Phil" <philburton@b...> wrote:

" Thigs are getting a bit sticky for the toffees arent they!! "

I bet David Moyes feels like a stick insect who is stuck on a sticky bun right now. Can these toffee jokes get anymore ludicrous!!! :))

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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 22:59:35 -0000
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, Dominic Churchill <dom@h...> wrote:

" Granted.....but as good as Charlton are away from home at the moment, Chelsea look like they won't lose to anyone.............. "

Doesnt it make you wish for the good old days again (by good old days I mean about 3 months ago). We wanted Chelsea and everybody else to beat ManUre didnt we. Now its the other way round... almost!!

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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 23:02:16 -0000
From: "Phil" <philburton@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

--- In EnglishFootball@yahoogroups.com, "Brad & Steph" <coma-divine@c...> wrote:

" Good. They've loafed their way through the Prem far too long. Now if only Portsmouth and Newcastle could join them. "

You might get your wish with Porstmouth, but I cant see Newcastle going down with them. Surely Sunderland will go down with Pompey and West Brom ??

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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:57:19 +0100 (BST)
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Chelsea 1-1 Charlton

This was a very close game between the Premiership big
boys and their nearest title challengers which went
the full distance.Chelsea would probably have been
every pundits favourites to win the trophy but
Charlton upset the odds after winning the penalty
shoot out.Defeat won't do them any harm whatsoever but
it will wipe that smug look of a few of their faces at
Stamford Bridge who probably they were invincible.
Sam
--- Maddie <madsmcfc@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Chelsea 1-1 Charlton
> (After extra time, Charlton win 5-4 on
> penalties)

> Charlton caused a major surprise by dumping
> holders Chelsea out of the Carling Cup in a penalty
> shootout.

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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:05:53 +0100 (BST)
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Grimsby 0-1 Newcastle

They had to dig deep but Newcastle finally made it
through after a very testing night against
Grimsby.Alan Shearer was the difference between the
two sides and showed he still has what it takes as he
fired home the winner with 10minutes left.He was left
sporting a bloodied mouth after an intense battle with
Grimsby defender Alan Whittle-all of which added more
than a little tension to this game.A vital win for the
Geordies and another step on the road to recovery.
Sam
--- Maddie <madsmcfc@btinternet.com> wrote:

Grimsby 0-1 Newcastle

> Alan Shearer's goal ended Grimsby's dogged
> resistance and put Newcastle into the Carling Cup
> fourth round.
> Shearer struck late on when he drove into the
> left hand corner after an excellent cutback from
> Michael Chopra.

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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 01:07:56 +0100 (BST)
From: Samuel Arthur <sammyboo21uk@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

A much better performance from Everton but not enough
to prevent them exiting from The Carling Cup.Given
their history in Cup competitions this season I
--- Maddie <madsmcfc@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
>
> More photos from the Carling Cup
> Middlesbrough poured more misery on struggling
> Everton, knocking them out of the Carling Cup in the
> third round.
> A series of fine saves from Nigel Martyn
> denied Mark Viduka and James Morrison as Boro
> pressed forward.
>
> But Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink made Boro's
> pressure count when he latched onto Viduka's
> through-ball from 10 yards.
>
> James Beattie nearly equalised with an acute
> shot but neither he, or debutant Andy van der Meyde,
> could break down the 2004 winners who held on.
>
> Teenage midfielder Morrison was at the thick
> of things for Middlesbrough right from the whistle.
>
> The 19-year-old forced Martyn to save at his
> feet before sending another effort from the edge of
> the box just wide.
>
> Spanish midfielder Mikel Arteta was equally
> influential for Everton and was unlucky to see his
> six-yard shot blocked.
>
> But as the pulsating half continued, it was
> Middlesbrough who eventually began to gain the upper
> hand.
>
> Martyn kept Boro at bay, impressively saving
> shots from both Emanuel Pogatetz and Viduka.
>
> We gave them too many chances
>
> From B
> Have your say on 606
>
> The veteran keeper was eventually caught out
> by Hasselbaink's low shot through his legs seven
> minutes before half-time.
>
> James Beattie almost grabbed a quick equaliser
> after the restart, his angled strike forcing Mark
> Schwarzer to make a tricky save.
>
> Just after the hour, Van der Meyde was handed
> his first start for the club in place of James
> McFadden and he produced some excellent curling
> crosses into the box.
>
> But it was Steve McLaren's side who continued
> to pose problems for Everton's slow-footed defence
> on the counter-attack.
>
> Hasselbaink saw his stinging shot hit the bar
> before clipping another shot narrowly wide.
>
> In the dying minutes of the match, Arteta was
> denied at the other end when his 20-yard free-kick
> smashed the cross bar.
>
> It was just not Everton's night - and
> Middlesborough marched into the last 16.
>
>
>
>
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>
> a.. Middlesbrough boss Steve McClaren:
> "I asked them for character after what
> happened on Sunday at West Ham, and that's what I
> got.
> "Our attitude was spot on and were determined.
> We broke well, made loads of chances and dominated
> in midfield.
>
> "We have learned to defend well to keep leads,
> like we did last week in Europe against
> Grasshoppers."
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> a.. Everton boss David Moyes:
> "We are very disappointed not to have gone
> through, and that we didn't get a better result.
> "We were disappointed we didn't make more of
> the crosses. We got a lot into the box but Boro
> defended well.
>
> "We didn't get on the end of enough of our
> opportunities. We improved after the break but we
> couldn't get that elusive goal."
>
>
>
>
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>
> Everton: Martyn, Hibbert, Yobo, Weir, Ferrari
> (Bent 41), Arteta, Neville, Davies (Osman 78),
> Kilbane, McFadden (Van der Meyde 62), Beattie.
> Subs Not Used: Wright, Kroldrup.
>
> Middlesbrough: Schwarzer, Queudrue, Riggott,
> Ehiogu (Bates 45), Parnaby, Rochemback, Morrison,
> Pogatetz, Doriva, Hasselbaink (Nemeth 67), Viduka
> (Yakubu 78).
> Subs Not Used: Jones, Kennedy.
>
> Booked: Rochemback, Viduka.
>
> Goals: Hasselbaink 38.
>
> Att: 25,844
>
> Ref: P Walton (Northamptonshire).
>
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[usblues] Digest Number 1173

2005-10-27T15:27:00.000-07:00

There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Where did the 4 goals per go
From: "jjcbeme" <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
2. Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done
From: "Ronald Grainger" <rgrainger9@msn.com>
3. RE: Where did the 4 goals per go
From: david@midwest-blues.com
4. In memory of a great man. Ronnie Barker.
From: Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com>
5. Re: Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done
From: Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com>
6. RE: Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done
From: "Phil Watson" <phil.watson@cfu.net>
7. RE: Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
8. RE: Where did the 4 goals per go
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
9. You're the ref Memo to Pires:
From: Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com>
10. RE: In memory of a great man. Ronnie Barker.
From: "Nicky Tuna" <nicky_jordan61@hotmail.com>
11. RE: Where did the 4 goals per go
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
12. Re: Where did the 4 goals per go
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
13. Re: You're the ref Memo to Pires:
From: chris chinoy <chelseafan71@yahoo.com>

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 00:10:53 -0000
From: "jjcbeme" <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
Subject: Where did the 4 goals per go

Is it me or have the goals disappeared with Robben's return?

Just a thought.

Brutal day... I've gotten used to not losing. Period.

Hopefully the few extra days off this will now create will help in the
other competitions.

Right... this still sucks.

After a draw, now this, the game Saturday is huge or those below might
actually begin to think they have a chance.

Sounded like Bridge was very good today.

JC in LB for CFC

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:41:43 -0400
From: "Ronald Grainger" <rgrainger9@msn.com>
Subject: Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done

http://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/indexframe.htm?mancity64H.htm&1<http://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/indexframe.htm?mancity64H.htm&1>

I discovered this video link from a Plymouth - Man City game in 1964

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:48:28 -0700
From: david@midwest-blues.com
Subject: RE: Where did the 4 goals per go

blip.

i still get nervous even if we are 4 up. just a bit used to it i guess.

bad break and huth had a rough day but he'll come good. look at terry
and that own goal v arsenal.

he'll come good.

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [usblues] Where did the 4 goals per go
> From: "jjcbeme" <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, October 26, 2005 7:10 pm
> To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
>
> Is it me or have the goals disappeared with Robben's return?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Brutal day... I've gotten used to not losing. Period.
>
> Hopefully the few extra days off this will now create will help in the
> other competitions.
>
> Right... this still sucks.
>
> After a draw, now this, the game Saturday is huge or those below might
> actually begin to think they have a chance.
>
> Sounded like Bridge was very good today.
>
> JC in LB for CFC
>
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:21:36 -0400
From: Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com>
Subject: In memory of a great man. Ronnie Barker.

sorry nothing about Chelsea - did he really get away with this?

This was originally shown on BBC TV back in the seventies.
Ronnie
Barker could say all this without a snigger. Irony is that they
received

not one complaint. The speed of delivery must have been too much
for

the whining herds. Try getting through it without converting
the spoonerisms

as you read ....

This is the story of Rindercella and her sugly isters.
Rindercella and
her sugly isters lived in a marge lansion. Rindercella worked
very
hard frubbing scloors, emptying poss pits, and shivelling
shot. At the
end of the day, she was knucking fackered. The sugly isters
were right
bugly astards. One was called Mary Hinge, and the other was
called
Betty Swallocks; they were really forrible huckers;they had
fetty
sweet and fetty swannies. The sugly isters had tickets to go
to the
ball, but the cotton runts would not let Rindercella go.
Suddenly
there was a bucking fang, and her gairy fodmother appeared.
Her name
was Shairy Hithole and she was a light Lucking fesbian. She
turned a
pumpkin and six mite wice into a hucking cuge farriage with
six dandy
ronkeys who had buge hollocks and dig bicks. The gairy
fodmother told
Rindercella to be back by dimnlight otherwise, there would be
a cucking falamity.

At the ball, Rindercella was dancing with the prandsome hince
when
suddenly the clock struck twelve.

"Mist all chucking frighty!!!" said Rindercella, and she ran
out
tripping barse over ollocks, so dropping her slass glipper.

The very next day the prandsome hince knocked on Rindercella's
door
and the sugly isters let him in. Suddenly, Betty Swallocks
lifted her
leg and let off a fig bart.

"Who's fust jarted??" asked the prandsome hince.

"Blame that fugly ucker over there!!" said Mary Hinge. When
the
stinking brown cloud had lifted, he tried the slass glipper on
both
the sugly isters without success and their feet stucking funk.
Betty
Swallocks was ducking fisgusted and gave the prandsome hince a
knack in the kickers. This was not difficult as he had bucking
fuge halls
and a hig bard on. He tried the slass glipper on Rindercella
and it fitted pucking
ferfectly. Rindercella and the prandsome hince were married.
The pransome hince
lived his life in lucking fuxury, and Rindercella lived hers
with a follen swanny.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:59:23 -0400
From: Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com>
Subject: Re: Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done

This was also done in an MLS all-star game, IIRC.

Funny how all the players stood still and watched the second
striker put it in the net. No attempt to get a rebound.

Les.

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:35:41 -0500
From: "Phil Watson" <phil.watson@cfu.net>
Subject: RE: Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done

Ron,

Excellent - thanks.

I forwarded it to some referee friends as it's interesting how mechanics
have changed!

Phil

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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:42 AM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [usblues] Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done

http://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/indexframe.htm?mancity64H.htm
<http://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/indexframe.htm?mancity64H.htm&1>
&1<http://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/indexframe.htm?mancity64H.htm
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I discovered this video link from a Plymouth - Man City game in 1964

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 13:39:20 -0400
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done

Yeah, Ron.....Brilliant research!

I took the liberty to forward it to NY blues as well. :-)

Cheers,

Hoss

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Phil Watson
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:36 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] Memo to Pires: this is how it should be done

Ron,

Excellent - thanks.

I forwarded it to some referee friends as it's interesting how mechanics
have changed!

Phil

http://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/indexframe.htm?mancity64H.htm
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:24:27 -0400
From: "T H" <theusblues@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Where did the 4 goals per go

Actually the goals dried up when my wife and I came back from holiday. 13
goals were scored while my wife and I were over there (Sept 28th-Oct 20th).

So, if you want the goals to return,we will volunteer to go back, but we're
out of funds so it will have to be on someone elses dime!

T H

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:17:43 -0400
From: Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com>
Subject: You're the ref Memo to Pires:

Two Qs:
1) Why did the ref award a free-kick to Man City .. especially
frustrating for them as they had the ball and were on the
attack, while most of the Arsenal players were standing around
wondering where the ball had gone.
2) Suppose Pires (or maybe Beckham is a better example) runs to
take the penalty and fluffs it, missing the ball completely,
what action is the ref supposed to take (FWIW, I think this is
what really happened and the ref awarded citeh the free-kick
because he didn't know what else to do).

Les.

>
> Ron,
>
> Excellent - thanks.
>
> I forwarded it to some referee friends as it's interesting how
mechanics
> have changed!
>
>
>
> Phil
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:34:18 +0000
From: "Nicky Tuna" <nicky_jordan61@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: In memory of a great man. Ronnie Barker.

Superb stuff Les!

He was a very funny man indeed.

Tuna

>From: Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com>
>Reply-To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
>To: "jjcbeme" <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [usblues] In memory of a great man. Ronnie Barker.
>Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:21:36 -0400
>
>sorry nothing about Chelsea - did he really get away with this?
>
>This was originally shown on BBC TV back in the seventies.
>Ronnie
>Barker could say all this without a snigger. Irony is that they
>received
>
>not one complaint. The speed of delivery must have been too much
>for
>
>the whining herds. Try getting through it without converting
>the spoonerisms
>
>as you read ....
>
>
>
>
> This is the story of Rindercella and her sugly isters.
>Rindercella and
> her sugly isters lived in a marge lansion. Rindercella worked
>very
> hard frubbing scloors, emptying poss pits, and shivelling
>shot. At the
> end of the day, she was knucking fackered. The sugly isters
>were right
> bugly astards. One was called Mary Hinge, and the other was
>called
> Betty Swallocks; they were really forrible huckers;they had
>fetty
> sweet and fetty swannies. The sugly isters had tickets to go
>to the
> ball, but the cotton runts would not let Rindercella go.
>Suddenly
> there was a bucking fang, and her gairy fodmother appeared.
>Her name
> was Shairy Hithole and she was a light Lucking fesbian. She
>turned a
> pumpkin and six mite wice into a hucking cuge farriage with
>six dandy
> ronkeys who had buge hollocks and dig bicks. The gairy
>fodmother told
> Rindercella to be back by dimnlight otherwise, there would be
>a cucking falamity.
>
> At the ball, Rindercella was dancing with the prandsome hince
>when
> suddenly the clock struck twelve.
>
> "Mist all chucking frighty!!!" said Rindercella, and she ran
>out
> tripping barse over ollocks, so dropping her slass glipper.
>
> The very next day the prandsome hince knocked on Rindercella's
>door
> and the sugly isters let him in. Suddenly, Betty Swallocks
>lifted her
> leg and let off a fig bart.
>
> "Who's fust jarted??" asked the prandsome hince.
>
> "Blame that fugly ucker over there!!" said Mary Hinge. When
>the
> stinking brown cloud had lifted, he tried the slass glipper on
>both
> the sugly isters without success and their feet stucking funk.
> Betty
> Swallocks was ducking fisgusted and gave the prandsome hince a
> knack in the kickers. This was not difficult as he had bucking
>fuge halls
> and a hig bard on. He tried the slass glipper on Rindercella
>and it fitted pucking
> ferfectly. Rindercella and the prandsome hince were married.
>The pransome hince
> lived his life in lucking fuxury, and Rindercella lived hers
>with a follen swanny.
>
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:36:54 -0400
From: "Hoss Moini" <hossmoini@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Where did the 4 goals per go

Alright, alright......point taken,I'll give you my dime then! :-)

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From: usblues@yahoogroups.com [mailto:usblues@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
T H
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:24 PM
To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [usblues] Where did the 4 goals per go

Actually the goals dried up when my wife and I came back from holiday. 13
goals were scored while my wife and I were over there (Sept 28th-Oct 20th).

So, if you want the goals to return,we will volunteer to go back, but we're
out of funds so it will have to be on someone elses dime!

T H

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:19:44 -0400
From: Mick Collins <bluemick@coralwave.com>
Subject: Re: Where did the 4 goals per go

No need to panic or worry as the hurricane refugee from the Bahamas will be
there......apparently sitting in the Shed right next to the Blackburn fans (
not sure I am OK with Chels letting away fans in the Shed still at least
without a fight!) so rest assured that they will be reminded about last
years game at their place!!!!

Mick

> From: T H <theusblues@hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:24:27 -0400
> To: <usblues@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [usblues] Where did the 4 goals per go
>
> Actually the goals dried up when my wife and I came back from holiday. 13
> goals were scored while my wife and I were over there (Sept 28th-Oct 20th).
>
> So, if you want the goals to return,we will volunteer to go back, but we're
> out of funds so it will have to be on someone elses dime!
>
> T H
>
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [usblues] Where did the 4 goals per go
>> From: "jjcbeme" <jjcbeme@yahoo.com>
>> Date: Wed, October 26, 2005 7:10 pm
>> To: usblues@yahoogroups.com
>>
>> Is it me or have the goals disappeared with Robben's return?
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Brutal day... I've gotten used to not losing. Period.
>>
>> Hopefully the few extra days off this will now create will help in the
>> other competitions.
>>
>> Right... this still sucks.
>>
>> After a draw, now this, the game Saturday is huge or those below might
>> actually begin to think they have a chance.
>>
>> Sounded like Bridge was very good today.
>>
>> JC in LB for CFC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:14:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: chris chinoy <chelseafan71@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: You're the ref Memo to Pires:

i think the ref was quoted after the game as saying
that he gave the free kick because he thought pires
touched the ball twice

--- Les Munday <baldrick@ureach.com> wrote:

> Two Qs:
> 1) Why did the ref award a free-kick to Man City ..
> especially
> frustrating for them as they had the ball and were
> on the
> attack, while most of the Arsenal players were
> standing around
> wondering where the ball had gone.
> 2) Suppose Pires (or maybe Beckham is a better
> example) runs to
> take the penalty and fluffs it, missing the ball
> completely,
> what action is the ref supposed to take (FWIW, I
> think this is
> what really happened and the ref awarded citeh the
> free-kick
> because he didn't know what else to do).
>
> Les.
>
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > Excellent - thanks.
> >
> > I forwarded it to some referee friends as it's
> interesting how
> mechanics
> > have changed!
> >
> >
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
>
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Topics in this digest:

1. Best's condition 'deteriorates'
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2. Grimsby 0-1 Newcastle
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
3. Man Utd 4-1 Barnet
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
4. Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
5. Birmingham 2-1 Norwich
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
6. Thursday's gossip column
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
7. Baros closes in on Villa return
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
8. Football chairman wins libel case
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
9. Trivia League, 10/27/2005, 8:00 am
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10. Auctions Ending 27.10.05
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:39:57 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Best's condition 'deteriorates'

Best's condition 'deteriorates'

George Best received a liver transplant in 2002
Football legend George Best's condition has "deteriorated dramatically", his former wife Alex said.
The ex-Manchester United and Northern Ireland star has spent three weeks in intensive care at London's Cromwell Hospital, with an infection.

His surgeon Roger Williams confirmed his condition had deteriorated but was not life threatening at the moment. He said the next few days were crucial.

Best, 59, had a liver transplant in 2002 after his battle with drink.

He was admitted to the Cromwell Hospital with flu-like symptoms and developed a kidney infection.

GEORGE BEST'S HEALTH
March 2000: Severe liver damage diagnosed
February 2001: Treated for pneumonia
April 2001: Anti-alcohol pellets implanted into his stomach
July 2002: Undergoes liver transplant
November 2004: Routine operation to check on liver transplant
October 2005: Treated for kidney infection in intensive care

Decline of the golden boy

His ex-wife Alex Best said: "I have been told that George's condition has deteriorated dramatically during today.

"I am just praying that, once again, he somehow manages to pull through against all the odds. My thoughts and prayers are with him."

Earlier this week, Best's agent Phil Hughes said the former player was "doing very well" and his condition had improved.

But on Wednesday it appeared his condition had changed. It was understood he was suffering from internal bleeding and was on life support.

'Fighting for life'

Professor Williams, who is in charge of the former footballer's care, told the Sun newspaper that Best was "certainly severely ill and is fighting for his life."

The professor also told the newspaper he had not traced the cause of the bleeding.

"We are not giving up. There's still a chance we can get him through this," he added.

When Best was admitted to the hospital, Professor Williams said that prescribed drugs needed after his transplant, rather than alcohol abuse, were the cause of his illness.

He said the ex-footballer had become more susceptible to infections after a course of medication to suppress the immune system and prevent his body rejecting the new liver.

And Mr Hughes said his client had been "off the drink" before being admitted to the hospital.

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:40:36 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Grimsby 0-1 Newcastle

Grimsby 0-1 Newcastle

More Carling Cup photos
Alan Shearer's goal ended Grimsby's dogged resistance and put Newcastle into the Carling Cup fourth round.
Shearer struck late on when he drove into the left hand corner after an excellent cutback from Michael Chopra.

The Magpies dominated early on and almost took the lead when Shearer saw his close range effort saved before Charles N'Zogbia hit the upright.

Grimsby grew in confidence and created chances but central defender Gary Jones saw a shot and a header both go wide.

Newcastle were visibly buoyed by their derby win over Sunderland at the weekend and made their class count by dominating possession in the opening 30 minutes.

The Premiership side could have taken the lead when N' Zogbia's measured cross beat Grimsby's defence, but Shearer was thwarted from close range by keeper Steve Mildenhall.

Grimsby stuck to the task and were industrious in their efforts to nullify the considerable threat posed by the likes of Nolberto Solano, Shearer and N'Zogbia.

It's not the most amazing result, but I reckon it's our best chance of a trophy this season

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On the half hour mark the home side had their best chance when Jones made contact from a free-kick but his header looped harmlessly wide.

Grimsby could have been down to 10 men when captain Justin Whittle caught Shearer in the face with his arm when going up for a header.

The steeliness of the challenge was a reflection of the Mariners' growing confidence and increasing presence.

As the game progressed the Premiership side were forced to work harder to fashion an opening as their forays on goal became less frequent.

Shearer had a largely frustrating evening but struck when he drove the ball into the bottom left-hand corner after a cutback from Michael Chopra.

The former England man had not netted in the competition in the last four years but added to his tally of 31 goals in 48 League Cup with a decisive finish.

Grimsby had a chance to level late on when a magnificent corner was headed wide by Jones.

Defeat was no disgrace for Russell Slade's side who had already accounted for Derby and Tottenham this season.

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a.. Grimsby boss Russell Slade:
"I'm very proud of my players and the way they performed, they did exceptionally well.
"Newcastle came with the right attitude to win the match but we weathered the storm early on and matched them without the ball for certain periods.

"One of my players slipped for the goal and then it fell to a world-class striker.

"We had one or two chances through set-pieces but they fell to the wrong players."

a.. Newcastle boss Graeme Souness:
"We did very well with the team we had on the pitch because we did not have our special players.
"My team worked hard and kept them at arms length throughout.

"Grimsby are a big unit and are direct and they cause teams problem. They worked hard to try and stop us playing but I was never worried."

a.. Newcastle captain Alan Shearer on challenge by Justin Whittle:
"I wanted to go out there and stick one on him. I'm angry because he's done me.
"It's blatant, I know he's done it, the referee Mark Halsey is five yards away and hasn't done anything.

"But the easiest way is to answer them is by scoring goals and that's what we've done."

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Grimsby: Mildenhall, McDermott, Whittle, Robert Jones, Newey, Andrew (Parkinson 71), Kamudimba Kalala, Bolland, Cohen, Reddy, Gary Jones (Gritton 71). Subs Not Used: Ramsden, Barwick, Toner.
Newcastle: Given, Ramage, Taylor, Bramble, Babayaro, Solano (Clark 72), Faye (Brittain 72), Parker, N'Zogbia, Shearer, Chopra. Subs Not Used: Elliott, Boumsong, Caig.

Booked: Clark.

Goals: Shearer 80.

Att: 9,311

Ref: M Halsey (Lancashire).

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:41:16 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Man Utd 4-1 Barnet

Man Utd 4-1 Barnet

More Carling Cup photos
Manchester United comfortably overcame Barnet, whose task was made impossible when keeper Ross Flitney was sent off after two minutes for handball.
Liam Miller capitalised immediately, beating substitute keeper Scott Tynan from the resulting free-kick.

Kieran Richardson added a second on 19 minutes but Barnet then resisted until 51 minutes when Guiseppe Rossi struck.

Dean Sinclair got one back for Barnet, scoring from 12 yards, but United added a fourth through Sylvain Ebanks-Blake.

Barnet's night took just 100 seconds to go horribly wrong.

Flitney had advanced a few yards out of his area when he plucked a routine pass forward out of the air a yard before the ball had gone back into the area.

Referee Richard Beeby duly sent Flitney off - and the game was over as a contest.

The 43,673 crowd - the lowest at Old Trafford for six years - voiced their disapproval to no avail.

Striker Louis Soares was sacrificed without even kicking the ball as he made way for replacement keeper Tynan to come on.

And once Miller curled the free-kick into the top corner, the writing was on the wall for Barnet.

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Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson on Flitney's red card:
"Surely we need some common sense.

"Everyone was stunned by it. It shattered a young boy's dream."

a.. Barnet boss Paul Fairclough:
"The decision was cruel and ruined two players' nights.
"Ross was distraught and we had to take off young Louis who, like us all, had been looking forward to this ever since the draw was made."

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Man Utd: Howard, Bardsley, Brown, Pique, Eckersley, Martin (Gibson 75), Miller, Jones, Richardson, Ebanks-Blake, Rossi.
Subs Not Used: Park, Smith, Silvestre, Steele.

Booked: Miller, Jones, Eckersley.

Goals: Miller 4, Richardson 19, Rossi 51, Ebanks-Blake 89.

Barnet: Flitney, Hendon, Yakubu, King, Gross, Soares (Tynan 3), Lee (Batt 87), Sinclair, Bailey, Strevens, Grazioli (Hatch 75).
Subs Not Used: Charles, Graham.

Sent Off: Flitney (2).

Booked: Yakubu.

Goals: Sinclair 74.

Att: 43,673

Ref: R Beeby (Northamptonshire).

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:42:15 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

Everton 0-1 Middlesbrough

More photos from the Carling Cup
Middlesbrough poured more misery on struggling Everton, knocking them out of the Carling Cup in the third round.
A series of fine saves from Nigel Martyn denied Mark Viduka and James Morrison as Boro pressed forward.

But Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink made Boro's pressure count when he latched onto Viduka's through-ball from 10 yards.

James Beattie nearly equalised with an acute shot but neither he, or debutant Andy van der Meyde, could break down the 2004 winners who held on.

Teenage midfielder Morrison was at the thick of things for Middlesbrough right from the whistle.

The 19-year-old forced Martyn to save at his feet before sending another effort from the edge of the box just wide.

Spanish midfielder Mikel Arteta was equally influential for Everton and was unlucky to see his six-yard shot blocked.

But as the pulsating half continued, it was Middlesbrough who eventually began to gain the upper hand.

Martyn kept Boro at bay, impressively saving shots from both Emanuel Pogatetz and Viduka.

We gave them too many chances

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The veteran keeper was eventually caught out by Hasselbaink's low shot through his legs seven minutes before half-time.

James Beattie almost grabbed a quick equaliser after the restart, his angled strike forcing Mark Schwarzer to make a tricky save.

Just after the hour, Van der Meyde was handed his first start for the club in place of James McFadden and he produced some excellent curling crosses into the box.

But it was Steve McLaren's side who continued to pose problems for Everton's slow-footed defence on the counter-attack.

Hasselbaink saw his stinging shot hit the bar before clipping another shot narrowly wide.

In the dying minutes of the match, Arteta was denied at the other end when his 20-yard free-kick smashed the cross bar.

It was just not Everton's night - and Middlesborough marched into the last 16.

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a.. Middlesbrough boss Steve McClaren:
"I asked them for character after what happened on Sunday at West Ham, and that's what I got.
"Our attitude was spot on and were determined. We broke well, made loads of chances and dominated in midfield.

"We have learned to defend well to keep leads, like we did last week in Europe against Grasshoppers."

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a.. Everton boss David Moyes:
"We are very disappointed not to have gone through, and that we didn't get a better result.
"We were disappointed we didn't make more of the crosses. We got a lot into the box but Boro defended well.

"We didn't get on the end of enough of our opportunities. We improved after the break but we couldn't get that elusive goal."

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Everton: Martyn, Hibbert, Yobo, Weir, Ferrari (Bent 41), Arteta, Neville, Davies (Osman 78), Kilbane, McFadden (Van der Meyde 62), Beattie.
Subs Not Used: Wright, Kroldrup.

Middlesbrough: Schwarzer, Queudrue, Riggott, Ehiogu (Bates 45), Parnaby, Rochemback, Morrison, Pogatetz, Doriva, Hasselbaink (Nemeth 67), Viduka (Yakubu 78).
Subs Not Used: Jones, Kennedy.

Booked: Rochemback, Viduka.

Goals: Hasselbaink 38.

Att: 25,844

Ref: P Walton (Northamptonshire).

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:42:38 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Birmingham 2-1 Norwich

Birmingham 2-1 Norwich

More Carling Cup photos
Birmingham left it late to book their place in the next round of the Carling Cup, needing a 25-yard drive from Jiri Jarosik to end Norwich's resistance.
The hosts took the lead after only five minutes when Jermaine Pennant scored with a deflected free-kick.

But Norwich equalised on 41 minutes through Dean Ashton's right-footed shot from the edge of the area.

Three minutes later Mikael Forssell missed an Emile Heskey-won penalty but Jirosik struck to grab the win late on.

The on-loan Chelsea midfielder hit an absolute thunderbolt, which crashed off the underside of the bar.

It gives Birmingham a much-needed tonic ahead of Saturday's bottom three Premiership clash with Everton.

This will provide much needed morale

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But it was rough justice on Norwich who did well to get back into the match.

However, visiting keeper Nico Vaesen was the busier of the two stoppers in the second half.

The impressive Jarosik had gone close on several occasions before finally breaking the hearts of the gallant Canaries with just four minutes remaining.

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Birmingham boss Steve Bruce:
"This game was about the result. I think the best team won but we made hard work of it.

"The five minutes before half-time when we conceded a goal by a deflection when in control and then missed a penalty just about summed us up.

"We stuck at it. It was a great goal from Jiri Jarosik and we hope that can be the springboard we're looking for."

Norwich manager Nigel Worthington said:
"It took a great goal for us to lose the game but the all-round performance and effort was first class - a huge improvement on Saturday," he said.

"We played like Norwich City have played for 99% of the time under me and it is important we keep that going.

"We have been short of that for the last game and a half. Hard work are two ugly words but that's what you need."

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Birmingham: Vaesen, Johnson, Martin Taylor, Upson, Clapham, Pennant, Kilkenny, Butt, Jarosik, Forssell (Birley 76), Heskey (Pandiani 45).
Subs Not Used: Maik Taylor, Painter, Tebily.

Goals: Pennant 5, Jarosik 86.

Norwich: Green, Fleming, Doherty, Davenport, Brennan, Marney (Rossi Jarvis 76), Hughes, Jarrett (McVeigh 87), Charlton (Henderson 68), Huckerby, Ashton.
Subs Not Used: Ward, Colin.

Goals: Martin Taylor 41 og.

Att: 28,825

Ref: M Atkinson (W Yorkshire).

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:43:20 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Thursday's gossip column

Thursday's gossip column
All the latest football gossip from the day's papers.
Wednesday's gossip
Manchester United are leading Real Madrid and Inter in the race to sign Bayern Munich midfielder Michael Ballack. (The Guardian)

But Franz Beckenbauer has urged Ballack to sign for Madrid. (Various)

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger has ruled out signing 17-year-old Mexican Carlos Vela for "a year or two". (Daily Mail)

West Ham will move for John Hartson and Glen Johnson in the January transfer window. (Daily Express)

Alan Shearer will play through pain for the rest of the season rather than undergo surgery on a hernia. (The Sun)

Hearts could appoint Sir Bobby Robson as their new manager in time for Saturday's derby with Hibs. (Daily Mirror)

France and Juventus legend Michel Platini calls for the introduction of two extra goal-line assistants rather than video technology. (Daily Telegraph)

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:43:51 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Baros closes in on Villa return

Baros closes in on Villa return

Career statistics for Baros
Aston Villa striker Milan Baros is bidding to return to action against Manchester City on Monday following an Achilles tendon problem.
Assistant boss Roy Aitken said: "He is into light training and we will look at him between now and the weekend."

Baros, who is 24 on Friday, has been dogged by the injury since last month's win over Wycombe in the Carling Cup.

But an injection enabled him to play in the Czech Republic's recent World Cup qualifier with the Netherlands.

Aitken added: "We will see how Baros is and if he is fine he will push on Saturday and Sunday, with a view to the game on Monday."

Meanwhile, defender Aaron Hughes is expected to be available after missing the midweek Carling Cup win over Burnley because of a slight reaction to a hernia problem, which had required surgery.

"Aaron was more or less rested against Burnley," said Aitken. "He had a little reaction because he came back quickly after his operation and he had played a couple of tough games.

"We are very hopeful he will be available for Monday."

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:44:17 +0100
From: "Maddie" <madsmcfc@btinternet.com>
Subject: Football chairman wins libel case

Football chairman wins libel case

Southampton chairman Rupert Lowe has won his libel case
Southampton FC chairman Rupert Lowe has won £250,000 libel damages over a newspaper's claim he had behaved "shabbily" in suspending his manager.
Former manager Dave Jones was suspended in the wake of child abuse allegations, for which he was later acquitted.

Mr Lowe, 47, had brought the libel action against the Times' comment in an August 2004 column that he had "shabbily handled" the situation.

Mr Lowe had previously offered to settle the case for £20,000.

It took a High Court jury three hours to reach its unanimous verdict.

Mr Lowe, who described the article as a "real blot" on his character, said he had a "duty to the whole Southampton family" including the shareholders, supporters, the football club's soccer academy and its sponsors.

At the end of the day it is a pity we had to go as far as we did in order to make sure the truth came out

Southampton FC chairman Rupert Lowe

Mr Lowe said outside the High Court in London: "Its been a long eight days and I am just glad that we have been vindicated in what we believed.

"At the end of the day it is a pity we had to go as far as we did in order to make sure the truth came out."

'Fair comment'

In December 2000, Mr Jones stood trial on 21 charges of sexual and physical abuse of children, arising out of an investigation into a Merseyside home.

Mr Jones, now in charge at Cardiff City, worked as a care worker at the home before he went on to forge a career as a football manager. He strenuously denied the charges.

The judge halted the trial after just four days and directed an acquittal.

Times writer Martin Samuel criticised the board's decision to "suspend Mr Jones for 12 months on full pay so he could concentrate on defending the case".

'Gardening leave'

Mr Jones, who was summonsed to give evidence for Times Newspapers Ltd, which denied libel, said that he did not bear a grudge against Mr Lowe.

But he said he received no indication that he did not have the board's full support until Mr Lowe told him he would be on "gardening leave" and Glenn Hoddle would take over from him.

The national newspaper pleaded justification and fair comment.

The case sets an unwelcome precedent for all columnists, who are supposed to have strong views

Robert Thomson, editor of the Times

Mr Samuel said in evidence that the article represented "his honestly-held opinion".

After the verdict, Mr Lowe pledged that any damages would go to charity.

The judge ordered the newspaper to pay Mr Lowe's costs, which were given in court as £225,000, with an interim payment of £112,500 within 14 days.

The judge has granted the newspaper permission to appeal on the amount of damages.

'Cavalier' with facts

Times editor Robert Thomson called for a review of the Britain's libel laws saying the award was a "disproportionate amount for the use of one mild adjective in a single piece of commentary in the sports pages."

"The case sets an unwelcome precedent for all columnists, who are supposed to have strong views on their chosen subjects," he said.

But a spokesman for Mr Lowe's solicitors, Mishcon de Reya, said: "We never wanted to go to court and tried to settle this case from day one.

"The decision of the jury has not only vindicated our clients' reputation but will send a loud and clear message to all newspapers that they cannot hide behind the cloak of fair comment whilst being cavalier with the facts."

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Message: 9
Date: 27 Oct 2005 07:41:25 -0000
From: EnglishFootball
Subject: Trivia League, 10/27/2005, 8:00 am

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 08:43:58 +0100
From: "Robert Mansell" <robert.mansell@tiscali.co.uk>
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